Bossa Nova

That thing is awful. Her right tit is strangely bulging up, unlike the left one. I dont want to criticize Brittany for post-baby weight gain. No way. But come on production, be her ally. Then there's the opening credits where she is wearing that two piece formal: again with the ill fitting bright sequin top, paired with the satin skirt, both emphazizing her bulging midriff, all made even worse by the unflattering camera angle looking up at her from the ground. Awful.

I cam here to see if there was any chatter about John's recent lawsuit against Shannon. I dont know too much about it, other than she was on Jeff Lewis' radio show recently (around April 1st) talking about it. That in and of itself bothered me for her. What is she doing ?!! Shannon got into the details: apparently John is suing Shannon for about $75K - the amount in which she admits she borrowed from him when they were involved. From her own mouth, I came away with thinking that now she has also mis-managed her money. Yeah yeah, so one season Bravo did not pay the Wives on a one lump sum timely basis. That was her excuse, so she had to borrow from John to make ends meet. And the girls were costing her money with pre-college preparations. While I felt bad for her, thinking, Jezuz, one more bad post-David, life problem for her in laundry list of big ones, ...she still is a mess.

Interesting arcticle from NY Magazine on Bethenny. From 11/31/23. https://www.thecut.com/2023/11/bethenny-frankel

Ramona, Ramona...finally shit canned by Bravo. Personna non grata. Permanently. Aye, aye, aye. And fired by Douglas Elliman as well. She sure was a crazy toxic mix of narcissism, unresolved childhood issues, no mouth filter, minmial intellect, alotta money. I don't know what else to add. Shoulders shrugged, palms up.

I 'm looking forward to see that Kelly Bensimon is just as weird as ever. Her freak out on Scary Island was a "tell". I still have a theory on her.....

Sought this forum out for the first time to say that I cannot stand looking at the host, David? is that his name? and his awful tattoos. All that nastiness up his neck is so distracting. Looks like dirt. I wouldn't trust his taste in anything. And the show concept? Just awful.

Yeah I don't get her. How'd she make her money? How does she afford living in NYCity, pre-her Housewives' gig. Why'd she really break up with that charming rich British guy who wanted to marry her. Odd And is her long hair for real or is it a wig or bad extensions? I go back & forth on that. What a stupid empty vague of a resume (see her linked in page). I love when people say they were brand ambassadors, or marketing reps. When they had a one day gig promoting a product somewhere. Like at a car or boat show, or in a wine store working a sampling table for customers.

I wish Tinsley well. Funny, when she first started on the original RH of NY, I thought I was not going to like the former "it" girl. Rich, pretty, seemingly snotty, stereotype from the south. But I ended up not only liking her but also rooting for her.

I came here to post the same thing: Shannon needs to quit that Dr. Moon and get a real therapist. I imagine that health insurance does not pay for Dr. Moon and I will bet that the price tag for his services is high, so she pays out of pocket. $$$$

The ending: Shannon sure looked like she wasn't feeling the warm and fuzzies when Andy was talking about the cast ending the season on a good note. Teary eyed Tamra, trying to act like she was feeling the warm and fuzzies towards her castmates, and secure her next season's employment. Fake. Last observation of the reunion: I really did like the set. Very different from all other reunions - the OC franchise and all others. I liked how the cast were all dressed "down", and not too costumey. Shannon was the only one that looked bizarre. The harsh yellow color, the scary Twisted Sister (aka Dee Snyder) big crimped dated 80's hair. Just awful when everyone else looked very pretty.

Anybody else notice the filming technique was different ? And annoying ? It's as if the camera was sped up for filming just a bit *or* slowed down *or* something.....I suspect to make the filming feel like a documentary. I welcome anybody else's take on this. Something was very different. And off.

I so agree ! This season and last. Here is my take on Olivia: I think she is uncomfortable on camera and it shows. She is sort of acting, sort of authentic, at times. Wasn't she in California (pre this show) to try her hand at some acting, and failed? Not sure where I read that. She has an immaturity for 30 something. She is another generic pretty blonde girl, with blue eyes, long hair, thin, cute clothes, and southern etc. Parents have money thus a nice house. By the way, she said this season that her parents have moved to Houston. She still living in their house and wants to have a future party there. My theory is the parents didn't sell their SC house so Olivia would have a nice place to live and film the show. Be featured on the show. I think she tried out for Southern Charm. She got the gig, and the first season she was "tasked" with having a fake on camera flirtation/almost relationship with Austen so she could have an introductory story line. It came across as so fake for both. And she did NOT want to kiss Rod. I am not buying their flirtation, authentic meet up date in the park. And then there is this: she has an on-camera nervous mouth habit - she constantly moves her tongue and smooths it over her top front teeth, as if clearing away food. It's annoying. Thus, I think she is uncomfortable on camera. Lastly, little spoiled girl had to call her dad to find out what to do with dog poops in the yard ? He tells her to dump it in the river and she does ! She then proceeds to take the big shovel and dump the poops over the yard fence. And she says something like she thought the yard help was supposed to do that. The help. Remind you of something ? A 30 year old woman who has had family dogs presumably for awhile, has never had to pick up poops? Lastly she is just plain boring. Nothing interesting about her.

Shannon really downgraded with the new condo, from her charming, most recent home. I get that she downsized due to the three girls now being off to college. But the condo, other than its waterside location in Newport Beach, has zero charm and limited space. Ahh ! But it is near John's place....hmmm. That said, I got to thinking about her current financial situation. Now that the three daughters are over 18, I suppose that David no longer pays child support, and the support income that would help Shannon with the household expenses and the house itself. He most likely will pay for their schooling and maybe incidentals for them, but that is it. So Shannon may be a new phase of financial strains thus her recent downsizing to a much less extravagant condo. She has to really need the Housewives job. $$$ Anybody know if David has officially divorced the second wife (Leslie?), with the on again, off again separation. They have a baby girl too. $$$

Only one of three things that you are doing when you're blitzed and out driving on a Saturday night: 1) Going to the store for more booze 2) Going to the store for snacks 3) Going to the store for booze and snacks Glad Archie is ok. Honestly, glad Shannon is ok too. I want her to get help. I really do.

I'd like to hang out with you and your friends at the holidays, C. Sounds lovely. People that adore dogs ....

So Kathryn was not asked back on the show. And she lost custody of the kids. Sad. But wondering just how she will make ends meet ? Assuming no custody money from Thomas, and now no show income. Will she have to get a real job ?

I just can't with Gina's vocal fry voice anymore. And it has gotten more pronounced & obvious with each of her Orange County seasons. I think its her unconscious (or conscious) way of blending into a southern California valley girl persona and losing her New Yawk accent. She draws out her raspy voice so long at the end of every sentence. Its such an affected way of speaking, as in 'aren't I cool and laid back ...' Vocal fry will do damage to her vocal threads over time. True, that really can happen. From Wiki: "Vocal fry means dropping your voice to its lowest natural register, which makes your vocal folds vibrate to produce a creaking sound." "It's particularly used by young women and seen as a way to support their authority by accessing an unnaturally deeper pitch of voice than they would normally use."

Was kind of thinking the same thing. Surely, Shannon has other non-show friends in which to vent her troubles. So why does she confide in her cast mates? There's enough evidence thru the years on the show, that cast mates will out her secrets.

Appreciate your comment on this seemingly minor incident in the mire of this week's episode. Re: The fiesta dinner, and Tamra finding the large liquor squirt gun and spraying it directly into Shannon's face at the dinner table. That is so Tamrat. The juvenile hijinks she gets away with - at the expense of another's dignity. "For a 55 year old woman" is right. I feel like I have been on the receiving end of something like this demeaning incident somewhere in my adult life. Maybe that's why it triggered me. It was a nice evening dinner party with spouses. Not a backyard pool party with the kids. Sure, its like so many other similar incidents we've seen from Tamrat thru the years. Even this season, drunken Tamrat in Montana. Falling down and dragging Shannon with her on that stairway landing in their bunkhouse. No Tamrat only does this shit with certain other Housewives. Vicki, yes. Shannon, always. Heather ? Never. She does not get slapstick physical with others. Tamrat KNOWS who she can with away in with doing this. Only others who are even more drunk and have weak boundaries. Shannon. Tamrat needs to do more than pay for Shannon's dry cleaning. SHE NEEDS TO BE EQUALLY HUMILIATED. I await the justice.

Interesting about Taylor's behavior. Well the husband is smiling. So maybe she was just a little loopy from their night out. But geeze, I wish she would get a makeover. Her strong features accented with the dark makeup and the bad extensions, make her look so severe and villain like.

But Meghan sure has made some bad men relationship choices. Wow.

Thank you TSummer ! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willy_Chavarria https://www.willychavarria.com/

Regarding guest judges, does anyone know the name of the male guest judge from the denim challenge from about 3 weeks ago ?

Thank you, Ethelto, for answering my question. I looked Batsheva Hay up: briefly, she is an orthodox Jew and designs with the needs of her community in mind, and beyond for other women who enjoy her aesthetic. Her designs are also known as prairie and Victorian. Yes, her sensibility is about being covered up and modesty. I respect that she appreciated the designs from last night's PR challenge - especially Brittany's who paired modesty and sexy. https://batsheva.com/ Interesting article from Town & Country Magazine. Her backstory: https://www.townandcountrymag.com/style/fashion-trends/a38199995/batsheva-hay-alexei-hay-family-portrait/ Please see my post just above regarding the guest designer judge, Batsheva Hay.

Who was that guest judge ? The prairie dress designer. Anybody catch her name?