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And Christian Grey returns this episode haha. It's a shame that Hawk isn't prepared to really let himself be true to himself, even the 80s he has an element of denial over who he is. Whereas Tim is comfortable with who he is, even in the 1950s (and with his religious convictions). So, I was beginning to formulate a theory last episode that Tim wasn't dying of AIDS but something else (and for some reason didn't want Hawk to know the truth). But this episode proved me wrong by showing Tim with Kaposi Sarcoma. This show is doing a really good job of weaving historical fact with its historical fiction and giving the supporting characters their own plot outside of propelling the Hawk/Tim plot forward. There is a lot of parallel between Hawk and Marcus not being the confident gay man they pretend to be, but at the moment it looks like Marcus is prepared to work on himself for the sake of his love interest. I have a feeling that photo of McCarthy is going to draw Hawk into McCarthy's investigation.

So glad that I finally got around to watching Angels in America earlier in the year, I knew who Ethel Rosenberg was (and who Roy Cohen was) and didn't have to pause (like I often do with historical dramas) and do a Wiki dive into that part of US History. Still very grateful that the politics is only a supporting plot in the show and not the main driver of events. It is definitely more of a character drama than a political thriller that's for sure. I'm enjoying learning about the various reasons why Hawk is not willing to commit to a relationship and it makes sense. Very happy he didn't fake apologise to his dad like his mum suggested. Hawk is proud to be gay and doesn't need to apologise for that, but due to societal expectations he can't be out like a gay man can today. I'm also liking how Tim isn't passive in the power dynamic of the relationship like I thought he was going to be based upon the synopsis of the show and the early part of Episode 1. He is willing to make power plays to get Hawk where he wants him. If the show didn't tell me Tim was dying from AIDS, I wouldn't have picked it. He definitely doesn't look like he is in the late stages of AIDS.

I feel it was a mistake to download Nathan. The humour is definitely funnier when it's occurring in Lakeview and I generally do not care about the conspiracy. How long could a show last just set in Lakeview? I don't know, but I just know this season I enjoy the Lakeview scenes way more than the real-world scene.

I feel 'scenes of foot sucking' should be its own category of classification. Probably doesn't help that my default memory for foot sucking is the Duchess of York scandal. I'm gonna guess tragic love story framed within a political thriller. I'm going to predict the politics will eventually lead to a shift in the power dynamics between Hawk and Tim that we saw in this episode.

I admit I was tuning in for the eye candy with worries that the US politics would be too heavy for me to truly get engrossed in the story. But I got to say this episode was fantastic, although it's clear we are heading towards a very sad ending, and I even understood all the political talk. Already thinking I might pick up the book once the show is done, but that does depend on how the story pans out.

Anyone know if there are plans to release the songs from the episode? I could really listen to these songs on repeat. I would probably place this episode into my Top 3 of TV Series Musical Episodes.

Quick question. Apart from being a cool plot device, why did Hillinghead carve his name and the symbol on the brick? I am only up to Episode 5 so if it's explained in 5-8 I'm happy to wait, if not, I'm really confused to why he did this.

3 episodes in and I am truly intrigued with where this is all heading and how each timeline is going to connect with each other. Episode 1 did a very good job in setting up the mystery, the lights exploding when the body was dumped reminded me of a similar thing happening in Dark. Have to admit I didn't enjoy either of the autopsy scenes. Episode 2 delivered the right amount of crazy conspiracy nuts to keep me hooked with what was happening and where the story is going. and Episode 3 finally started dropping evidence of how the timelines are going to be linked. Just hoping Henry isn't part of the time travel conspiracy. At the moment, the WWII storyline, is the least interesting for me. Mainly because it feels like a mob storyline, and I'm not a fan of that style of storytelling. Between this, Loki and Dark (for the first time), seems I'm currently in a bit of a time travel obsession. And at the moment, I'm enjoying the fact that the timeline isn't as complicated as Dark - but that could all change once the story starts to follow any actual time travellers. At least at the moment I don't need to pause any episode to look up who is connected to who and in which timeline haha.

Wow, that episode flew by and I'm not sure I know what exactly happened - kinda wished I rewatched S1 to remember what happened. But who cares, it's so great to have the show back. I missed the Loki/Morbius interactions. Absolutely loved the scene where Loki was influencing present OB's memory by talking to Past OB - that I understood. I also enjoyed the return of the mid-credit scene.

Paul Rudd goofing around right at the end of the performance of ;For the Sake of a Child' made me burst out in laughter. Great to see the complete uninterrupted performances of these two numbers, especially 'Creature of the Night'. Only problem is that the two clips make me wish this was a real production even more.

So I just listened to the songs from this episode on Spotify, and have a quick question: Have they mislabelled the 2 versions of 'For The Sake Of A Child'? To my ears it's Martin Short singing on the one labelled Ben's Version and Paul Rudd performing on the one labelled Oliver's Version. Anyone thinking that or do I need to go and get my hearing checked? Either way, the song clearly identifies the killer as The Detective. Seems I was too caught up in all the drama and the staging of the number and missed that moment during last night's viewing.

I admit for a moment, I thought they were going to have a moment of misunderstanding and Dickie was going to kiss her - in a parallel moment of Donna/Cliff. So thankful that didn't happen,

The official soundtrack of Season 3 has been updated on Spotify to include not only Creatures of the Night and For The Sake of the Child (both Ben and Oliver's version) but also two songs performed by Jonathan (I assume these are the songs performed at the club and not some 'deleted' songs from the musical). And it's amazing how I missed the massive spoiler for the killer when I looked at the track listing a couple of week ago. Or maybe I saw it, but my brain refused to acknowledge that it was about the murder.

I still have my fingers crossed that this gets to theatres in Australia, but considering I also live in the sticks, I'm probably going to have to wait for the digital release to watch it. Which means even a longer wait.

Me too, I was hoping we'd get a full version of Creatures of the Night and it didn't disappoint. I think so, but then it might have also been the detective? Just another reason this needs to be a real production so we can get closure haha. I found the solution to the murder extremely satisfying and perfect for the season. It was so much better than last season's. I prefer my murder mysteries to have clues that point me to the killer clearly. I don't care so much about the actual answer, it's more about the journey for a TV murder. And it says a lot, that I actually felt sorry for Cliff. And I take my hat off to the show for making the Pickwick Triplets the biggest red herring by only have two murderers and not 3. I admit I gasped when I thought it was Charles who was shot. Kinda relieved he wasn't but poor Sazz. Bring on Season 4, I love this little show.

I peeked as well, mainly to find out about the what the credit scenes were if there were any.

I like this suggestion, very Murder on the Orient Express. But I am kinda hoping @JenE4's idea is closer to the truth because it is so wild it makes sense.

When Mabel was explaining how Gregg couldn't be the killer and turned away from Theo, I thought I saw Theo with a look of annoyance that when she finished hypothesising he was going to say 'I got nothing of what you said cause you walked away' but instead we got a 'I heard everything you said you little nerd' Apart from that little moment, I loved this episode (I have fond a couple of the episodes this season lacklustre - compared to previous seasons). We moved the murder plot along very nicely, there were some great humourous bits. A surprise big name star that actually worked well from a comedy point of view, a little surprise cameo and the return of multiple past characters. I was wondering if Theo was going to appear this season, and it was great to see Bunny again. I still have no idea who the murderer is but I'm leaning towards Tobert for no other reason than a wild stab in the dark.

I just assumed that it was a form of dementia or old age forgetfulness. Even though she didn't get to go to her final day as senior, she was essentially recalling the good times with her friends as she slowly prepared for her death. And Ghost Jughead was just there to help her untangle her forgotten memories while conveniently dumping exposition for the audience. This is a very valid takeaway, and while it was a satisfying end for S7, as a series finale it definitely wasn't completely satisfying from a character point of view or big story. I re-watched the first-ever episode this week and the tone is so different that I doubt anybody; crew, cast, writers, and viewers, would have picked the finale that we got based on that first episode. As much as I enjoyed Season 7, I couldn't help shake the feeling that the writers regretted that time jump and really wished they kept the crew in their teenage era/university era. So rewound the clock because it's easier to end a teen drama than an adult drama involving superpowers and whatnot.

When making a list of greatest series finales, will the one for Riverdale make the Top 10? Not at all. But considering the hot mess this show became, I found the finale very satisfying. And it may be a low bar to set for a series finale, but if by the end I feel nostalgic for the show that just ended then it did its job. And that's what this finale did. It actually made me want to rewatch the series. I think the best finale vs finale comparison to use would be Glee. Both shows were a hot mess by the end, and both shows used their finale as an extended epilogue to the previous episode. And I have to say, I think Riverdale hit the epilogue out of the park. Sure, the endings may not have satisfied every fandom, but they at least tried to explain where everybody ended up before they died. I think the framing device of Betty travelling through her memories was a good way to exposition dump everything. My only complaint is that if the writers had time to throw in a random mention of Chic, the least they could have done was thrown a Moose reference into Archie's fourth wall breaking 'poem'. I mean even Chuck got a call out in the Josie episode. And actually, speaking of Chic, I wasn't a fan of how Jughead delivered the update on what happened to Tom Keller and Uncle Frank. It was delivered like those two definitely deserved to be murdered. Which honestly, I feel did a disservice to Tom in the original timeline where he was a supportive dad to Kevin. I mean when the comet hit, he was sitting in a comfort circle holding hands with Kevin and Moose. Not exactly a guy who deserved to be murdered by a hitchhiker he picked up for sex. Although I'm glad that Kevin and Clay lived a long healthy life and didn't succumb to the stereotypical death of AIDS in the 80s (this reminded me of the gay couple in the Australian show A Place Called Home who survived the AIDS crisis as well and were able to get married before they died). It's also a shame they weren't able to film that final diner scene when the Ethel and Josie were available for filming. That scene will always have a touch of 'if only'. Similar to when I watch the final song on Glee's finale and wish Marley could have made filming that day. I appreciate the writers weren't exactly subtle in referencing Titanic as a reference point for this episode. With Old Betty speaking like Old Rose and Jason (best cameo of the season) opening the door to the diner for Betty. And I also like to think the scene of Betty saying goodbye to Riverdale is a reference to Muriel saying goodbye to Porpoise Spit in Muriel's Wedding. This season ended up being my second favourite season after the first one and the finale was very satisfying and dare i say emotional at times. Probably because I never cared about Varchie, Bughead, Barchie, Vughead, Veggie etc. It was definitely time for the show to end, but there is a part of me that is going to miss the craziness this show bought to the screen.

Watched this series last month when it dropped here in Australia, felt like i was the only person in Australia watching it though. And I got to say I was impressed with the way they told the story. I won't spoil anything but if you are tuning in to see a disaster movie every week, you will have to rethink your approach. This is a slow burn that takes it time to explain what is happening with actual plausible science. It makes it feel more grounded and realistic compared to a 2-hour action movie. I really enjoyed that, like 1899, they had people speaking their own language when communicating to someone else from their country (most of the time). I was fascinated by the story that I thought about reading the book it is based on but baulked when I saw how long the book was. I've just started watching Dark and couldn't place where I've seen this guy before. Now I know.

I'll be back later to share my thoughts on the finale, but just popped in to say I clocked on the link to read about the deleted scenes and to my surprise I had seen those scenes. Seems Netflix Australia showed the extended version right off the bat, that would explain the 50 minute run time. And even with the extended scenes, they still didn't have time to tell us what happened to Dilton.

That has to be Angel Tabitha, who obviously has not aged a day. I seriously am hoping it is something super random that makes her want to remember 1955, but still WTH? Like she is out getting milk and walks past a person who looks like Jason Blossom.

I'm going to assume the reasons why 86 year old Betty wants to reminisce about the past is because a) She is on her deathbed or b) She is the only one of the gang still alive or c) Both

This was the moment that I thought was overkill with Isaac's books.