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  1. 7 hours ago, LydiaMoon1 said:

     

    • See, Erica told her what to do, but Janine NEVER takes sound advice. She always does the exact opposite. Janine is a dork, but SHE IS very messy.

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    Especially when Maurice described them as enjoying their "situationship."  I could understand if they were married, or even in a long term committed relationship, but I'm not even sure they have had a discussion about being exclusive.  

    I also really liked Maurice's story about waking up in a package after the UPS holiday party.

    I think Amber loving the purse Janine hated was a sign that Maurice and Amber would be endgame.  Interesting to see it referenced here again (Erica hinting she'd like it for her birthday, since Janine hates it)

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  2. 6 hours ago, ofmd said:

    I thought the writing had improved this season (not to 'really good,' but to 'quite bearable, sometimes even funny.' But now they believe that yet another unplanned baby storyline is a good idea?! Sorry, even if the actress is pregnant, have her sit behind plants or carry big bags, idc. It's almost as if the writers think that each and every poor woman is careless with her sexual health/ contraception. It's also incredibly lazy.

    Boy, I'm having a tough week with my tv shows, even the good ones!

     

    The actress looked pregnant to me in the show (I'm not certain).  A bag is fine, plus this show has absolutely no concern about continuity.  So far, in the Conner Universe Dan's wife disappears for months at a time on tour, Emilio hasn't been seen since he got remarried, we haven't seen DJ in a while, very little of his daughter, and his wife has been gone forever (in the military but still).   Andy's disappeared.  The fourth Conner baby is at sea or was never born (I can't remember which.  possibly both?)   Dan's stepbrothers appear to have never been born (we saw Crystal with no mention of her children).  

    How hard would it have been to send Harris off to college for a semester, or an internship or a job in Chicago?  She was originally from there, and could have some friends who might be willing to help her launch some sort of career.  Given what a pill the character was, I can't imagine anyone would have missed her for a few months.

    It was nice to see Jackie try to protect her, but I think that's about all we will get in terms of positive story lines about this mess.   

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  3. 1 hour ago, Xeliou66 said:

     

    The storyline with the husband of the victim having dementia was pretty well done, dementia is a scary thing and it was portrayed well, but I hated the cheesy ending with the guy dreaming of his wife or whatever while St Olivia read the story, that was so cheesy and felt so unlike what makes SVU good. The flashbacks at the start were okay, but the ending was a step too far.

     

     

    I was starting to roll my eyes at St. Olivia reading the book, interrupting what was one of the best SVU episodes in a long time when I saw the dedication.  This episode seemed perfect to dedicate to Richard Belzer, a story about a curmudgeon who is deep down a really good person.  I was wondering if this episode was originally scheduled to air now, or if they switched the order to dedicate it to him.  It seems like it might be in order due to Valasco's continuing story, and maybe it was just fate.  It was also nice that one of the few well done episodes in recent years could be dedicated to Richard Belzer, who contributed so much to the good years of SVU.

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  4. 1 hour ago, Wizardpatch said:

    I found it very unrealistic that no one besides Jackie seemed to be concerned that the homeless goober will be in their lives from now on or just a deadbeat dad.

    I would guess that everyone else is assuming deadbeat dad.  But at this point, David is gone (and retconned into a deadbeat dad) and if I recall correctly Emilio hasn't been seen since he married another woman (and must be a deadbeat if everyone else is raising Beverly Rose) so aside from Dan  all the fathers seem to disappear.

     It's interesting to see the contrast between Jackie's husband and Ben; the extended family doesn't seem to be dumping their nonsense on him, and he even stood up to Becky and called her out on how badly she was treating Jackie and the rest of her family.

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  5. 6 hours ago, Arcadiasw said:

    I think Becky is smart and knows what she is doing: being that family member that takes advantage of others. If she wasn't renting from family, Becky would have the rent money on time

     

     

    And it's pretty shocking to see her casually dump the soul sucking parenting tasks on Ben immediately after not paying her portion of the rent.

     Am I correct in understanding that she's still an undergraduate?  There's no way she should be taking in person classes if she can't handle working, being a parent and taking classes.  She doesn't have to enroll at the University of Phoenix or another expensive, low prestige for profit school; there are plenty of public universities that have online courses and degrees now.  If she has no money, then she needs to take online community college courses, then after two years transfer to the University of Illinois or another  public university with online degrees and then maybe for her graduate degree she can study in person if her field doesn't have online degrees.  

    The actor playing Ben looks utterly exhausted and defeated; did anyone think for a second how hard it might be for him to take responsibility for Harris' kid when he is unable to have his own biological children if he stays married to Darlene.     It seems pretty unrealistic that a man in his position wouldn't run for the hills, but no reasonable man would have married Darlene given the fact that she cheated on him and treated him like garbage so maybe they'll stay together.

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  6. On 12/30/2022 at 5:51 PM, aghst said:

    She was going to LA for Sam though.

    Ridiculous, taking the kids to LA just so she can more easily fuck Sam, away from his wife.

    Even if she wasn't going to LA for Sam, its still a pretty terrible idea to take your kids across the country when you are trying to start up a new business.  She won't have much time for them, and they will be dealing with difficulties from being separated from all of their friends, Toby and their long time nanny (she didn't get fired until after Rachel went MIA and Toby demanded she work through her vacation which was insanely stupid because this show was set in precovid NYC, where he could have easily called a million nanny agencies and gotten someone to take care of his kids during the nanny's vacation).

    If she had a business reason to start the LA office, the benefit of the divorce would be that she could leave the kids behind for the summer, establish the office and then come back to NY in the fall and resume shared custody then.  

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  7. 16 hours ago, EdnasEdibles said:

    See, I don’t think Adam is a saint at all. I think he’s just as dismissive as Toby is. He even mentioned in the garage argument that he has been annoyed with Libby for months, but never once does he mention it or try to deal with it? He rolls his eyes a lot and complains a lot and trash talks to her in front of her friends at a party when he made fun of her for complaining so much at Disney World. She may have been neglecting him, but I think he had been neglecting her too for just as long. 
     

    I think there are a lot of parallels between Libby and Rachel. Rachel is obviously in a more severe mental health crisis. But I think Libby is clearly depressed. And no one in her life sees her or tries to help her. I think honestly that’s why the moment with her and Rachel was so poignant. But I think both Adam and Toby are the same in the sense that the women in their lives are not doing well, and they can only think of how it affects them and how annoying it is for them to have to deal with that. Both Toby and Adam were playing the victim in my opinion. 
     

    In the garage fight, you can kind of see that Adam still cares for her but even then he’s not seeing what’s going on and he’s very much “you have a nice house and you have kids. Why are you so fucking upset?” Which is missing the point. Libby doesn’t have anybody who really see who she is and what she’s going through - just like Rachel didn’t. Libby feels unfulfilled. Libby feels alone. Libby feels pointless. Libby doesn’t feel like she fits in anywhere, unless she’s with her friends from her past because they actually see her. It’s an older version of her, but it’s still seeing her on some level. She’s pretty much invisible in New Jersey. And her husband is just rolling his eyes and saying that she complains too much and she has no reason to complain. 

    I'm slightly harder on Libby than this.  It feels like a lot of Libby's problem is that she wasn't able to advance at the men's magazine.  And I really find it hard to be sympathetic about that, because its a men's magazine.  I'd be really sympathetic for her she wrote for Time magazine and they gave all the good assignments to male colleagues, but honestly it feels more like "why did it take her so long to realize that a men's magazine isn't going to support a woman?"  And I also find it hard to believe she was earning so much as a middling writer at a men's magazine that she couldn't have quit a long time ago and found something personally fulfilling that wasn't financially rewarding.  She could become an adjunct professor, teaching classes in journalism, writing or women's studies.  Or she could write for a feminist publication or worked as a freelancer (she didn't earn a salary in the previous year and her family was fine from a financial point of view).  Her kids are old enough they are not completely dependent upon her, so she should have had the ability to at least try to make her life fulfilling.  And if it was depression that prevented her from doing these things, then she should at least have gone into serious therapy to try to work on that.  

     

    Adam supported her quitting her job to write a novel.  And her showing up late for the flight to Disney was pretty awful for the kids who might have been worried about her and the trip, and her forgetting to make reservations for that trip was also awful given the fact that she doesn't work outside the home and it seemed from the family scenes like he was both earning money and being the primary caretaker of the children.  He mentioned having planned everything down to the minute, and that kind of planning takes a lot of work.

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  8. On 12/27/2022 at 8:42 AM, SomeTameGazelle said:

    I just rewatched this scene in isolation and I think Alejandra does show concern (for Rachel) but Rachel manages to cover by insisting that she's fine and it was a personal problem that caused her to flake on her. 

    What I couldn't understand after finding out that Rachel was at home at least some of the time during this breakdown and people were following up with her as a huge deal was falling apart that her assistant didn't take any steps to contact the police or at least the building concierge to find out what was up. Does Rachel have other employees? We saw her in what looked like an enormous office but maybe that was when she worked for Matt?

    That office was absolutely hers.  She told Sam Rothman that Toby says if medicine was run as efficiently as her office, doctors would be able to treat patients.  It's sad that her employees, the clients who knew how hard she had always worked to help them, and the father of her children didn't  contact the police when she went MIA.  It's also really sad that her "friends" left her on the ground in Central Park when she was sleeping there in the middle of the day.  

    Libby who didn't even particularly like her until they ran into each other in the park was the first person to try to help her and make sure she was okay.  But honestly I think a big part of this is that no one (except maybe her Alejandra) really liked her very much prior to her breakdown.  I'd imagine she wasn't the easiest boss to have (we saw her assistant looking very scared as she was trying to stop Sam Rothman from barging into Rachel's office), and Toby clearly hated her before she left, and her friends were merely acquantainces that killed time together as they went to workout classes and held insipid fundraisers and staved off their own unhappiness with mommy juice together while complaining about how hard their lives were.  

    The assistant didn't contact anyone initially because Rachel had some limited phone contact with her, snapping at her that she wanted to be left alone for a weekend.  I think if the assistant actually liked her, she would have been worried when she didn't reappear after the weekend, and would have contacted the police.  And because the assistant probably told everyone "Rachel's fine but she's just asking for some time off because of the divorce" most people would accept that.  Alejanadra would assume because the assistant is giving a work excuse that there was no emergency and Rachel was fine.  

    In the end, Rachel was all alone as she feared and there was no safety net for her.  

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  9. 18 minutes ago, aghst said:

    I will never get sick of Europe.

    They had some beautiful legs in Europe this season (especially Iceland), and I also loved seeing Petra.  If they can't afford to travel all over the world or if the logistics are too challenging now, then maybe pick one beautiful place like Petra we've never seen before and head there for a couple of episodes.  

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  10. This episode was perfection for Ava and she nailed every hysterical line.  She was also used the perfect amount in this week's episode, since last week's Ava-centric episode showed that too much Ava is like too much Jacob (good for Jacob on getting the scratch off tickets, and going to spend the holidays with his boyfriend).  

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  11. On 11/25/2022 at 3:25 PM, DrSpaceman73 said:

    As a doctor it's an Intersting perspective on the perception of the doctors as a profession now. Almost as if it's a 'that's super!' But not up to par for upper crust new york. 

    He seems to be more at a teaching facility though rather than private practice where he would make more money. 

    This is a very common perception among certain circles in NYC.  An ex is in academic medicine and his wife is an estate attorney, and her career is the primary one in the family.

    The one thing that I don't think they got right about upper class NY life was the son's camp.  That poor kid looked like he'd hate a traditional sleep away camp; there was no reason to send him to one.  There are academic sleep away camps for kids starting at age 9, and the son seems like he would really love to be with other bright kids studying science.  This family has the money but not the parental time right now, so they could have easily bought him a summer he would have loved.  It really pissed me off to see that child going off on the same bus as his sister (who would love traditional sleep away camp) when there were options that could have kept him happy.  I'm assuming by the fact that the dad was miserable about sending his son away that he was sending him to a traditional sleep away camp which was a poor option for him, especially when there are so many alternatives.

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  12. 2 hours ago, Quilt Fairy said:

    Well, that was stupid. 

    A whole season of S-T-U-P-I-D. 

    I could write more, but I don't think this show is worth it anymore.  I'm taking my remaining brain cells over to Netflix to see if The Crown S5 has dropped yet. 

    Ah, yes, but who was the most stupid:

    - Nick, for hitting Commander Lawrence publicly instead of making Tuello an offer to defect to America and provide information conditional on the Americans protecting June and Nicolle.  He didn't want to leave Gilead for his wife's sake, but hitting another man over his girlfriend publicly is going to pretty much end their marriage.  And he may not love Rose, but he genuinely cares for her and trusts her a lot, so the fact that he hit Lawrence publicly is really humiliating and stupid.  He also has a ton of information that could help take Gilead down and get revenge on the people who tried to hurt June, but instead he takes a swing at Lawrence and gets himself thrown in jail.

    -Rose, for not quite realizing that there is no way out of her shitty marriage (unless she is planning to go full Naomi and request that the council salvage her husband for his crimes).  She's definitely not the stupidest person here, since everyone else seemed to make terrible decisions that directly caused their own problems, and she's just reacting to Nick's stupidity.

    - June for not realizing that Luke couldn't possibly get on a train right now while being tracked down by the canadian authorities

    -Naomi for treating Janine like garbage one minute and then telling her how happy she was to have a friend in Commander Lawrence's home

    -Janine for throwing away what was probably the safest posting for her, which would also have hopefully given her some access to Charlotte. (although in her defense she may not have realized how much safer she is in Commander Lawrence's home than any other commander, and Commander Lawrence may have had her arrested so he can force her to come back to his home where he will protect her)

    I'd personally select Nick as the dumbest person here, but the fun thing about this show is there are so many options!  At least Serena showed some intelligence and resilience (this woman has the resilience of a cockroach) in throwing herself at Tuella the first second she could.  

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  13. 8 hours ago, revbfc said:

    -How do you have any sort of advanced schooling without reading?  As a viewer, I’d like to see this.

    If you google NY times and Hasidic schools, they recently did an expose of the Hasidic schools in which the schools are putting so much emphasis on learning the Torah, that students are graduating from the schools nearly functionally illiterate in English and unable to compute basic mathematical equations.

     The potential wives are only about 13, so "advanced schooling" is for children who here in the US would be middle school aged, and for the Wives it would be training for running a household.   I would imagine there would be a lot of emphasis on memorizing the Old Testament, especially passages on how wives must obey their husbands.  Plus gardening, painting, and drawing classes to give the Wives something to do all day while the Marthas cook, clean, and raise the children.  In the Testaments, Aunt Lydia discussed her concern that their "sex education" program  at Wives School which was intended to make sex sound terrifying and awful to scare girls into remaining virgins prior to marriage and  later to not cheat on their husbands might be terrifying girls into not wanting to get married, and there were some girls who attempted suicide when they were engaged to men old enough to be their fathers.  

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  14. On 10/27/2022 at 9:25 PM, chaifan said:

    I really want to like this show, but they're making it hard.  I think Todd is getting dumbed down a little each episode.  In the pilot, he exhibited real PI skills.  He had savvy, and thought of things others didn't.  He had intuition.  He was good at his job.  And by episode 4, his big break came by putting a glass on a wall to listen to someone in the bathroom.  ugh.  I liked him as the screw-up-in-most-of-life, but surprisingly good at his job type of guy.  Now he's 90% cartoon character. 

    And what's with Margaret trying to mom-shame opposing counsel?  Again, she was a tough ass lawyer in the pilot, and now she's whining "it's not fair" to opposing counsel?  And feeding him an apple?  WTF?  And taking a bus instead of calling a taxi, Uber, or private car?  Pilot episode Margaret wouldn't have been caught dead in a bus.  She would have hopped into a private car, made Todd take the bus, then chastised him for being late when he finally got to work.  I'm ok with them loosening her up a bit, but again, they're dumbing down the character.

    Also, they obviously don't have a single person with legal experience in the writer's room and are too cheap to hire a consultant.  Everything legal about this show was wrong.  Civil cases have judges assigned from the beginning - everyone knew which judge they were getting from the day the lawsuit was filed.  "motions to dismiss" and "motions for summary judgment" are two different things, yet they were both used to describe the hearing.  In civil trials the other side would have weeks, if not over a month, to respond to these types of motions.  Not 48 hours.  I could go on.  I don't mind absolute silliness in legal shows when silliness is the main premise (Ally McBeal, Boston Legal).  But if the lawyers are supposed to be serious lawyers, get the law stuff at least somewhat right.  A second year law student could have written the court stuff to make sense, and not changed anything with the main plot.

    I like the premise of the show.  I like the cast.  I hate everyone's hair.  Except Margaret's secretary, she has fabulous hair.  I just want it to be smarter.  Or at least to pretend it's viewers are smarter.

    All of this.  The cast is really good.  The premise is interesting - a tough, successful mother and her son trying to turn his life around.  But the writing is a disaster.  All airplane crashes are investigated, and if a pattern of crashes are discovered, the type of aircraft will be grounded.  It's unbelievable that the victim would have to choose between getting a settlement and exposing the company.  

    There's actually a lot of interesting plot that could be explored with this show.  Todd explained his mom wasn't there for him when his dad died because she was finishing up law school.  That's actually a really interesting conflict to navigate - the mom, who had to be tough to support her family as a single parent, and the kid who needed her to be there for him when she couldn't.  How do they view this conflict years later, and how can they work through it?  That's a whole lot more interesting than following a silly court case that doesn't make any sense.

  15. 1 hour ago, Cinnabon said:

    Hannah is a child. Parents can take kids wherever they want “against their wills.” 

    They can legally take her anywhere they'd like, but part of the reason why courts allow children Hannah's age to have a say in custody is that otherwise they'd keep running away.  It would be pretty hard for Luke and June to keep a 12 year old in Canada against her will given the weird no man's land thing that's going on right now.  

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  16. Having Hannah rescued and brought to Canada would be interesting because she is old enough to have potentially accepted her new family and truly not want to return.  We saw that with some of the older children who June rescued on the plane- they missed the Gilead elite parents who stole them from their biological parents.  Hannah was scared of June last time we saw them together, and I'm not sure she would want to leave Gilead.  Hannah's adoptive parents seemed to truly love her, and they were portrayed as the ones responsible for June's convenient plot armor since they stated they didn't want Hannah to be devastated when she found out that June was killed.  

    And if Hannah doesn't want to go how on earth would June handle being rejected by the daughter she sacrificed everything for?  And how can they keep her in Canada against her will?  Or would they have to let her choose to go back to Gilead?  

    These are much more interesting plot lines than watching June stare endlessly into the camera (I'd also like to see more of the experiences of Naomi Putnam and the other wives  to see if they regret the society they live in but I'll take whatever interesting plot I can get)

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  17. 6 hours ago, peridot said:

    I laughed so hard when Jacob tried to not say that his bike was stolen by a black guy.  Ava's reactions were hilarious.  Her purple outfit was really cute.

    I liked seeing more of the cafeteria crew.  I loved the lean in to the camera when he was describing Janine.

    I don't blame Barbara at the least.  I was really surprised that Gregory and Janine ignored her wishes like that.  The little girl with braids who broke both toilets was so adorable!

    I just shake my head at Ava doing auctions in her office.  I laughed at "who's that white lady".  I don't like that the solution to Ashley was to "get to know her".  She ignored Melissa's to-do lists, she should have been fired. 

    The teachers aide absolutely should have been fired, but unfortunately even before covid, it was near-impossible to find enough good people to work as aides so schools mostly just waited until the terrible ones quit on their own.   Hardworking, dedicated aides are wonderful but since they are earning near minimum wage in most districts it is incredibly hard to recruit and keep them.   There are lots of terrible aides in the schools who do absolutely nothing all day except keep the district from getting sued because legally they have to provide some students with disabilities an aide - and even the worst aide who spends all day on their phone can probably keep the district from getting sued or keep the district in compliance with a union contract that guarantees teachers aides under certain classroom conditions.  

    The intro where Jacob tried to not describe the person who stole his bike as black was really funny, as was Ava's reaction to it.  But Janine is starting  her third as a teacher year this season (she was a second year teacher during the first season of this show).  Stunning incompetence on her part isn't funny anymore and its just tiresome to watch.  This show has so many other wonderful directions it can take (we'd all love to learn more about vacation Barbara losing her shoes on the cruise or see more of her family, we'd love to learn more about the lives any member of Melissa's family or underworld connections, or see Greg growing as a teacher and how he is resolving his conflict with his dad) that this show needs to stop wasting airtime on insipid stories about Janine trying too hard and failing. The actress is just too charismatic and likable for this to be the direction the audience would want to see this show go in.

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  18. 2 hours ago, Cinnabon said:

    Why would they grant a terrorist asylum?

    As others have noted, she may have important information left.  If she has truly realized the mistakes of Gilead, then she would be valuable as pr against their society.  And the fact that her husband stood by and watched as the Commanders decided to cut off her pinkie and spanked her in front of others makes a compelling argument for her as a victim of domestic violence (she participated in the design of the society and in many ways wasn't a victim, but I think if she were willing to cry on camera she would be able to  portray herself as having done terrible things because of her husband).  Serena as a victim isn't true - her hitting Rita after the baby shower when Rita was just trying to help her was an example of the monstrous aspect of her personality, but I think she could at least make a decent case for it.

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  19. On 10/13/2022 at 7:51 PM, Night Cheese said:

    That's a great point, I can see that too. I really like how they've given Tariq some nuance. When they first introduced him I thought "of courrrrrse Janine's got a deadbeat boyfriend who drives her car without paying for gas and happily eats her breakfast and wakes up at noon." But despite not being right for Janine now that they're not teenagers anymore, he's not a totally bad guy. They could have gone that route, but they didn't and that was a pleasant surprise. He's going to make a good partner to someone one day. Most likely a partner that doesn't need a 50/50 relationship, but will be happy with an 80/20, but he'll find love with someone. As will Janine.

    I think they really nailed Tariq in the zoo episode last season.  At first, him singing to the kids and having them sing back just seemed like a playful, fun exchange but he was the first chaperone to notice when a kid went missing.  He confirmed the child was missing by having the kids sing back to him and he realized  they were down a bass).  Of course, he also expected Janine to drop her career and life to follow him to NYC without even discussing it with her (or figuring out how on earth they would pay for rent in NYC) so that also captured his personality pretty well.

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  20. 12 hours ago, Redrum said:

    I hate to say that deep down, I don't think this would work but....

    No one makes a living being a surrogate. I've not been pregnant myself but I am told that it wreaks your body. Its emotionally difficult to give up the child even if it isn't yours genetically. Just encouraging breeding without dispersing the children means the rich have nots don't get the babies they want. There will always be women like me who would not accept any incentive to have a child. I'm not advocating the Gilead system at all, but... having babies can kill you. Its hard to incentivize for that. 

    I've had 3 kids.  And honestly, I was extremely lucky and being pregnant wasn't a particularly difficult experience for me.  For some women, it is truly awful - especially those with serious, life threatening complications or conditions like hyperemesis gravidarum.  But for others pregnancy isn't nearly as difficult, and I'm sure if you offered all women enough money you'd have volunteers from the women who have easier pregnancies.  And even from women who had harder ones - this could be a path to survival for themselves and their children in Gilead, which might make a lot of women sign up.  You could offer to provide a small livable stipend for 10 years and housing for women who agree to be surrogates or undergo IVF to be egg donors (I also underwent an IVF cycle, and which wasn't too bad for me luckily, but is much harder on some women).  There are even women who would "volunteer" if they saw that children from "unfit" homes were taken away, and they knew if they "volunteered" as a surrogate their own children would be protected, because it would show enormous allegience to the state.  That would still be really traumatic, but less so than what the handmaids are living through.  I really don't believe this kind of situation would need to be adopted even in the face of a massive fertility crisis.

  21. 2 hours ago, RockShrimp said:

    Thank god bullying works. I was screaming at the TV for Sharik to suck it up one more week. They can lose next week I needed toxic positivity GONE. 

    Sharik's dad seems like a genuinely good person, so I was rooting for them to keep it together today also.  I'm really glad he'll get to see Jordan before heading out.  

    I don't have anything against Rich, but he chose Dom, and I haven't seen much personality from him (aside from doing a reasonable job crazy wrangling his girlfriend to keep her from totally melting down.)  Dom and Rich better hope they have backup careers handy because I'm not seeing great success in motivational speaking in their future.

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  22. 13 hours ago, Redrum said:

    In fairness, Hannah is absolutely a child of color adopted into a high ranking Commander's home and raised to be a Wife. 

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     An older child of color would be unlikely to be adopted into a Commander's home and raised to be a Wife; these children were probably adopted by families loyal to the state religion but lacking in power.

    My reasoning here in stating that an older child of color would be unlikely to be adopted into a commander's home  is a little confusing.  In the  Hulu show, Hannah was born in 2009, and the US government was overthrown in 2014 (at least according to the wiki page.  I can't remember if this is true).  That would put Hannah at about 5 when she was placed for adoption.  I'd believe that's probably about the limit as to how old of a child would be adopted by a higher ranking family who has alternatives like Handmaids. Usually, adoptive families want infants or young children, so I'd think it would be unlikely most of the older children (especially those of color) in the orphanage would go to commander's homes, but I would think that given the overall shortage of births and adoptable infants, the older children we saw at the orphanage would eventually be placed at "fit" but less powerful homes like Nick's first wife's home.  Hannah was "lucky" enough to be young enough she was more likely to be adopted into a commander's home but I don't know if that would have happened for an older child.  But that is purely my speculation.  One of the protagonists in The Testaments was a child taken from her birth mother who had been reassigned as a handmaid; the child was young enough to have no memory of her birth mother and found out she was adopted after rumors spread about her in school.

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  23. On 9/28/2022 at 11:22 AM, possibilities said:

    I think the show has gotten less interesting since they pivoted to the deadbeat dad being less of an antagonist. They tried to redeem him by having that re-write where he apologizes, and they imported his buddies to the writing room. Ever since the Hannah tripped and the writers all laughed, they've been selling the idea that actually the elders were right and they can all just gat along now. I'm not against some understanding that experience isn't worthless and maybe they can actually work together after all. But Hannah's voice and the voices of the writers she hired have been mostly silenced by the noise made by her dad and his pals.

    The way they've made it into "everybody gets along now" is actually much more of a sitcom trope than the edgy show they were saying she wanted to write and which this series started off suggesting it might be.

    The show has become "wacky hijinks by the cast in their sex lives" and less about a show that's trying to be different than the thing it rebooted. It doesn't even use the reboot framing anymore, really. It's just a sitcom, any sitcom, really.

    I agree with this completely.  And given the fact that the cast is all really good (even the cast I didn't expect to be good like Johnny Knoxville because I wasn't familiar with anything but Jackass) it's a real waste of an enormous amount of potential.  the show is still good thanks to the cast, but it could have been amazing, and I hope they go back to this dynamic next season.

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