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Prison is going to permanently and perhaps catastrophically change Josh. It will be very interesting to see what happens to him upon his release. Assuming he serves 4-5 years- his children will be grown, they will not know him, and what they do know of him they probably aren't going to like ( at least the older ones) I agree with the previous poster who said he could get out and realize he wants to leave Anna ( which I think is very , very likely) . I don't know if any amount of money Daddy Duggar dangles in front of him could keep him in his warehouse with the kids he doesn't want and a wife he doesn't love. Anna will not go anywhere unless she is forced to. GF is in her own prison too.

Jill is definitely in the best position- she has a husband who seems to actually care about her well being, she is used to being 'cut off' from the immediate family ( I could see Lauren and Josiah/ Abbie and whoever wanting to be far away from this mess, but have no idea how to go about functioning as adults). Jill also had the fortune of being publicly distant from her family so any backlash from this definitely misses her. Her husband can take care of her financially and emotionally. Jinger is in a rough position, Jeremy can't be pleased about the negative publicity, seems to be unlikely to help her mentally ( I genuinely don't think he cares all that much about Jinger's well being, truly. He wanted a helpmeet and coattails to ride- not a true partner in life). She is slightly better off than say Josiah and Lauren because Jeremy at least has real world experience/ could probably get a real job if he actually needed too. And I don't think the Vuolos would let the girls suffer- they seem supportive ( financially and otherwise). I think we will see Vuolos come out with the tell all first, because Jeremy might think that will get them the most positive attention.

I also was wondering what was the deal with the mom. I definitely thought we would hear that she was an alcoholic or at least WAS an alcoholic at some point Seriously- who lets their 13 year old just do heroin in hotels with older men? It sounds like Dad left to Wisconsin and mom stayed behind and drank?? Why wouldn't she go with? I don't think we got the full story from them. And yeah, Lexi mentally is 13, and seems majorly stunted in almost every way. I don't see a bright outcome for her unless she forever lives in some sort of sober/supported living environment.

Not to mention, who actually bothers to repair infant or toddler clothing? Unless it is like super fancy special occasion clothing? They grow out of it in 2 seconds, just get a new pair of pants. You can get old navy pants for literally 3 dollars.

That is disgusting And I am SURE all of these fundies ( and non fundie) influencers get all sorts of insane, inappropriate, disgusting comments about their children All the more reason they ( all influencers ) should stop showcasing their children on social media to thousands ( and sometimes millions) of people

I don't know if Jessa is depressed but she is just a mini Michelle. Lazy, bare bones parenting. Bin is equally as lazy and I actually think he is WORSE than Jessa in all this because he has to know better- he grew up better. Jessa didn't. Michelle and Jim Bob are lazy, negligent, self absorbed parents just like Jessa. Little kids are hard, and that is why most normal people don't knock them out rapid fire, and many of those who do have resources to help them- babysitters, pre school, full time daycare ect. Responsible parents don't have more children than they can adequately care for.( and in my opinion- adequate parenting includes regular schedules, meal times, parental attention , education, space, toys, ect) Both Spurgeon and Henry are old enough for preschool a few times a week and if Jessa would get off her butt she would likely find herself to feel way better having a break from having to deal with 3 kids under 6 all day every day. It is exhausting, and I wouldn't want to do it especially pregnant yet again. I am a SAHM and my 2 year old goes to pre school one day a week, and will go three days a week when she is 3 just in time for the second one to be born. I would never in a million years survive being pregnant with 3 kids home all day every day, especially with no activities ( play classes ect) . So I bet Jessa and Ben ARE miserable, and the responsible thing to do would be to STOP HAVING KIDS.

Kendra ( like many second generation fundies) are so, so trapped in this life. I do hope she enjoys it too, because she's stuck. Especially being married to an inept duggar male. Unlike her parents, or Boob and Mechelle, she has no frame of reference for normal. They will be the most screwed ( right up there with Josh and Anna) when the Duggar money stops rolling in because they will have the most children, and the least life experience. At least Josh knows that if it ever got bad enough, a tell all book/media tour ect would get him enough to get by. I'd read it if it was a true honest account. There will be hope for Joy and Austin to slow down the baby train though- I don't see Austin really aggressively pursuing 10+ children the way Boob did. I think he has enough sense to have a year or two of bad headaches. Boob and Mechelle went out of their way to have that many children- they never were leaving it up to God. I am sure there were many times that neither of them wanted to do the deed but it was the right timing for a blessing so they went on with it. I think if they actually just had a natural relationship to childrearing and sex ( also unprotected) they would have had less children because who on earth is having that much sex with 4 under 5 or whatever IDK if Kendra and Joe are going out of the way to get pregnant immediately like Michelle, time will tell I think if the baby train continues as rapidly as it has been.

I have a toddler and am pregnant with #2 due in May. I work part time. My work just finally reopened after being shut down for ten weeks , and this was my first weekend back at work. My Husband was parenting from 8 am to 12 pm ( only 4 hours) and both days when I came home he had a nap when my daughter did. It is Exhausting!!I feel like I've been on vacation all weekend, honestly. LOL. However, with two parents fully at home for the most part, Jinger should not feel the entire burden of childcare day in and day out. I am sure Jeremy is completely useless and unhelpful. My husband has a very demanding, out of the house job, and every day I still get about 2 hours of a break + post bedtime to relax/ do what I want to do. There are no excuses to why Jeremy seems to be this way aside from 'patriarchy' But, at any rate, maybe this will inspire them to STOP having kids and only take on what they can handle. I feel like Jill learned this lesson, and hopefully Jinger will too.

Jinger would have came off way better just being like ' OMG I am so sleep deprived, you're right this was from Japan! My bad!" or something along those lines. just own up to the mistake and move on. And seeing she is a mom of a toddler and a newborn, that is a believe able mistake ( though I have no doubt she forgot where the Japan picture was taken, haha) They are so pompous and self righteous. Which is why they will never succeed with a broader fanbase.

I would do this for my daughter to help hold the diaper in place. when She would be running around crazy in a diaper and dress, sometimes the diaper would come flying off or be sideways on her haha! I often would put little shorts on her under her dresses in the warmer months too, strictly for the diaper haha. But i definitely think Duggars do it to stick to their weirdo modesty requirements

Well, not entirely. I am in IL which has had the stricted lock down measures from the start and my daughters pre school ( private) has been open the whole time. Public schools are another story. Private sports clubs and dance ect have been open as well. Anyway, COVID lockdowns really make no difference in the duggar universe. Their entire life is a lockdown aside from church. it is quite sad. We will soon see major differences in Israel and Spurge. Spurge needs to start going to some sort of formal pre school or kindergarten

Or at least get some couch covers. I Have a toddler and a dog and our upstairs couch has a cover on it. I wash those covers all the dang time, and when company comes over I can just take them off quickly and have a decent looking couch. Though my dog is way messier than my kid is. Dog hair and drool, ick. It looks horrible I will admit but its better than constantly sitting on a mess and I like the convenience of being able to clean it super easily!

Jinger and Jeremy are dumbos. Like everything else the Duggars do, this is half ass effort and makes no sense. Jeremy is trying real hard to promote himself as an intellectual of sorts, so whats with the trashy looking baseball hats? I think they would have had more success making some sort of christian daily devotional app, with an extra weekly sermon add on. Or one that follows their podcast. Or a hope and stead pen and journal since he loves pens so much. The baseball hats are ugly stupid and make no sense with their brand. The candle is weird too. I'm not spending 18 dollars on a candle unless it comes from Anthropologie haha. Also, with the pandemic, people are less likely to spend money on useless crap, but self improvement is a hot market. It even makes more sense for Jeremy to make a workout app since he was an athlete. There is a personal trainer I know who runs special Sunday fitness group classes that are kind of a combination of worship music/devotional and a workout. I'm not into organized religion these days but if I was, I'd probably attend something like that. Jinger could also do her own Christian mom devotional too. There are many other better, cohesive ideas but they require more effort than slapping a logo on a hat.

Same, and i think they will be correcting people until the end of time. Most people will say 'Lean"

Derick and Jill definitely were virgins when they married. I am happy I wasn't, and I am happy my husband wasn't. I feel like that could lead to always wondering if the grass is greener on the other side, truly. I also think that it helps you figure out where sex lands on your priority list. Sowing my wild oats definitely helped me prioritize the more critical qualities I was looking for in a partner. Our sex life is great, but I would MUCH rather be highly compatible in other areas like parenting, family relationships, work life balance ect vs lacking in those areas. I really do feel bad for these fundies who marry with hardly knowing their partner just to find out that they suck at everything and always wondering if there's more out there. Probably leads to more infidelity I'd imagine too.

I think its really high fundie standards, and high standards for looks as well. Anyone who meets those standards is likely out of their league, or just simply doesn't exist. Their sisters are incredibly beautiful, so I think they are looking for an equivalent who is also super fundy and super subservient. AND who would be interested in them as well. Tall order, I think. They will likely be bachelors for a long time and wind up marrying an 18 year old when they are pushing 30. The only book I'd be interested in reading from the Duggar Daughters is Jill's book. Everyone else will be sticking to the party line. Nothing new to see there.

THIS. This is widely known yet I know SO many parents who let their young children watch youtube unsupervised. Drives me crazy. We will never allow youtube in our house as long as we can help it. I probably wouldn't feel the need to read that book to my child anytime soon ( she is 2) however I have to appreciate that Jill is looking out for her kids in ways her parents never did. Perhaps Jill believe that Josh's exposure to porn led him into becoming a molester. I also think porn was probably a HUGE issue in the Duggar home, and probably a huge issue for many other sexually repressed fundie families. All the shaming and public punishments probably made her think that every young boy is going to try to see porn and become obsessed with it like Josh may have been

stress and lack of sleep too, for sure. I l feel like i look older and worn out when I don't sleep well now that I am in my 30's

I just don't understand how Claire can honestly be emotionally ( and I also think physically but I'll leave that because who knows) attacted to him. This is the equivalent of a woman in college dating a high schooler, seriously. When I was 19 , I was definitely into guys who were in their 20's. I didn't like guys my age because they were juvenile/ immature/ ect. Even when I was in high school I hung out with older guys. This to me is a huge mismatch in terms of development. Claire looks like she should date someone more mature. Teenage boys are the WORST. I can't imagine how insufferable a duggar teenager would be. immature, know it all, zero life experience...so gross.

I am sure he slept around like most other guys his age. I would imagine this is a sore subject for him and Jinger. ( or maybe just Jinger) . Nothing wrong with doing so, unless youre a fundie.

The whole " but how did this happen we are so shocked!!' is LITERALLY the most annoying thing in the world. You've gone through this process 2 times already FFS. YOU KNOW! Exactly. I was one of 4 and felt that I got lost in the shuffle during times. I definitely feel like I want to give more attention to my daughter than I sometimes got as a kid ( and my parents really are great, no hard feelings, but there are only so many hours in a day). I acted out a lot and had very low self esteem until I was an adult. We plan to have one more and then be done. Coincidentally, my two older siblings who got a ton of attention and what not are both already at 3 kids. I'll be curious to see what my youngest sibling does ( his wife is currently expecting #1). Time will tell on whether any duggar offspring will go big on the numbers. Once you hit 10 kids I am sure the novelty has worn off and they aren't going to get the attention Michelle had when she was doing 15 kids and counting specials. People just don't care anymore. Been there done that.

I am convinced you cannot be a decent parent with so many children, so close in age ( assuming you don't have hired help) . I think this is neglectful parenting, truly. If they stop at 5 or 6, they can actually have a chance to do better than Michelle. But I doubt they will. I don't really hear many people talking fondly of coming from large ( I'll say 7+ kids) for argument sake. My dad is one of 7 and his childhood was rough, my MIL was 1 of 9...hearing them talk about their experiences growing up just blows my mind. Everyone for themselves- and they went to school too so at least the mom got a break for some time of the day. I think its hard for us to comprehend the amount of chaos and neglect these QF kids went through. We are stopping at 2. LOL.

I am a mom to a 2 year old and you couldn't pay me enough to willingly take in more kids to my house to clean up after and entertain all day. I would want 100 dollars per kid, per day at minimum. Just sounds miserable. I'd rather go work somewhere out of the house doing literally anything. ( I do work part time and its a great break). I love being a parent but holy hell my 2 year old can be exhausting!!! So I can see why pregnant Jinger isn't running a daycare. Also- I don't think that painting looks very much like jinger, but its a sweet idea. Seems more like a mothers day gift to me tho.

I disagree. I think Derick is actually genuinely angry at Boob and Mechelle about the traumatic, abusive childhood Jill suffered ( and also angry that he now has to pick up the pieces and teach Jill how to be an adult and parent). Out of the two of them, I think Derick actually is the most authentic and cares about Jill more than his feud. Even if Jill was upset by the feud, I think it has helped her begin to heal from her childhood trauma. And its Izzy and Sam who will really benefit from Jill moving away from the cult.

Chicago suburbanite here, and I agree I'd eat the shit out of that charcuterie and it is also VERY well priced. I'm happy Jill and Derrick went out, hopefully had a drink or two and enjoyed themselves.