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21 hours ago, helenamonster said:
Agree that the acoustics in the pool scene were terrible. Some very important plot info could have been exchanged and I didn't catch a word of it.
Ah, so it's a cartel the intelligence squad is buddies with. This can only end badly.
I know that, per the episode title, this was all about "The Blue Wall" and cops protecting and standing up for each other no matter what kind of heinous shit they pull, but I'd have to think they'd gladly shrug off one of their own if he admitted to murdering an ADA, right? I know it's probably not as "bad" as murdering another cop, but I feel like it would be up there.
Cole insisted that Harlee get in the pool to ensure that she had no listening devices on her person. As far as the conversation, Cole gave Harlee his backstory about connecting with Ramsey after he left the SWAT unit and thereafter joined NYPD Intelligence. Harlee wanted to find out from Cole if Bennett was at the ambush of Wallace which Cole confirmed that Bennett was there, but Cole denied being part of it. It seems that Ramsey is getting desperate to please his new cartel partner and things might be headed to the dark side for the Intelligence unit.
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On 6/18/2018 at 8:50 PM, ShortyMac said:
The series ends on a cliffhanger?? Man...
JLo interview comments right after NBC announcement of cancellation were very positive about the ending. The Ray Liotta interview presented more as just rambling. IMO. The season 3 schedule includes 10 episodes which suggests a planned ending was in place. During his interview, Liotta couldn't recall much about what actually happened in the last season which didn't made any sense.
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41 minutes ago, Neiman said:
7 HOURS AGO, GOTHISH520 SAID:
I get that "no sign of the dogs" is a running joke, but Lizzie has mentioned Agnes several times this season - she doesn't have to mention her in EVERY episode.
Thank you.
and Thanks so much for no more of the ongoing Aram/Samar senseless bashing.
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5 hours ago, Ohwell said:
I thought he was being sarcastic. Even if he wasn't though, and he thought it would be "great" for her to take the job, that still doesn't mean that he recommended her for it.
Bottom line is, I guess we can speculate but we really won't know until the new season starts.
5 hours ago, greyhorse said:I must have missed where he said that he turned down the job offer. When did he explicitly say that he turned it down? I recall him asking her if she would take the job and she said she would, and that was the "great" response. I don't understand why he would think that their "relationship" would keep them from their professional aspirations. They had a one night stand, then she broke it off, then there was some suggestion that they wanted to be together again. But we haven't seen much from them other than their competitiveness against each other to be number one. Not sure why Connor would expect her not to take a job at Mayo if she had the opportunity.
I am just speculating (reading the subtext of their last conversation) on how Ava might leave the show. It's a mini cliffhanger folks. Some kind of change is coming between them.
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3 minutes ago, Ohwell said:
Yeah, I understood that it was all about her ambition, and I can believe that he turned down the position, but I didn't get that he actually recommended her for it.
Else why the "great" response?
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2 hours ago, Ohwell said:
I probably wasn't paying attention but when did he reject the job offer and recommend Ava to the Mayo clinic?
It was implied (subtext) in his conversation with Ava which explains his "great' response after she said that she would accept a hypothetical offer. He's happy now because he knows where things stand with her. It was all about her ambition. IMO.
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5 hours ago, greyhorse said:
2. Connor. Did a good job playing the angst ridden CT surgeon who is struggling with should he or shouldn't he participate. I don't believe that CT surgeons have any "crisis of confidence". They are the rock stars of the surgical world, oozing with confidence and usually bordering on arrogance. I'm glad he stepped in and saved those twins. I guess both he and Becker are soon to be graduating fellows? Didn't know they were both finishing at the same time. Connor obviously won't take the Mayo job, for the simple reasoning that if he does, he's off the show. So I guess that means Ava goes?
Connor rejected the job offer, but implied otherwise to Ava in order to find out what Ava wanted from their relationship. He recommended her to the Mayo clinic and now he knows what she wants which is why Connor replied "great" and drove off. She leaves the show, but who really cares because I think most viewers are annoyed with their weekly confrontations over who has the best skill set or who is the most competent CT surgeon for difficult procedures. IMO.
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A real letdown of an episode for the most part given how Red and Liz are now feuding. The "blacklister" was of no significance, yet he was able to keep control over Samar for so long. She should have been able to easily overpower him at any time especially when she stabbed him after he tracked her down in the woods. She has lost many of her kick butt Mossad agent skills from the past. When the music started playing at the hospital, I assumed that Samar would be killed off, but it looks like another female FBI agent in a coma over summer hiatus. It seems unlikely that the writers would kill her off without also dropping Aram from the cast as well. IMO.
Aram was really not in stupid mode looking for Samar, but rather just desperate enough to move him towards the lead in finding her. The task force has tortured people on several occasions, but no one wanted to do that to save Samar's life. Red offering Cooper such a strange torture scenario was just ridiculous. As for Red taking no interest in saving Samar, recovering the duffel bag has top priority. Nicholas T. Moore was an evil man who killed multiple people and then chose suicide to end his predicament. I doubt that Aram will suffer any repercussions over the incident. Just a very disappointing episode before finale.
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14 hours ago, Sandman said:
From the interview with Rick Eid in Us magazine:
Unfortunately, the results appear to have been none of those things: not creative, dramatic, or even very interesting. (Since when do writers get away with praising their own work in the press this way?)
The high command was responsible for Olinsky’s death not Voight. The Woods arc was more a statement on the wide range of Chicago police corruption rather than just Voight being a dirty cop. The purpose of the Olinsky arrest was to flip him on the Bingham murder with nothing but circumstantial DNA evidence that was probably planted. The arraignment, bail hearing and quick arrest were fast-tracked to force a Voight confession. A veteran cop exposed in prison is open season for retaliation murder which is on the high command. I think the Olinsky death was collateral damage from the Sophia Bush sudden departure. It is hard to see how any of the team members keep credibility as good cops after their collective outburst towards Antonio given his lack of support for the roof killing. All team members have selective morality including Antonio whose righteousness depends on his family keeping out of danger.
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15 hours ago, slothgirl said:
...........This show has a long consistent history of pretending family doesn't exist even when we've been introduced to them except when it's DiNozzo or Gibbs Senior. There have been other times that family should have been present .. or at least FRIENDS from the "other side" (like Delilah and Jimmy Palmer's wife don't seem to have any friends of their own in times of joy, marriage, heartbreak, hospitalization, etc). There were more references to Abby's nun friends than to her brothers....
And whatever the backstage reasons, the whole MH and PP never in the same room controversy took me out of the story and show too much over the episodes... but this was especially ridiculous. It may have started over a dog, but it had to have blossomed into far more, unless Harmon is really the type who just won't ever back down once his back is up.
Well said. Delilah becoming a ghost this season makes no sense at all. Abby and Delilah had great chemistry, but she had no presence in Abby's send off episodes which was disappointing.
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8 hours ago, Neiman said:
I guess I view the dogs as a little detail that the writers do not need to fill me in about. Like I know Harold Cooper separated from his wife, but she hasn't been mentioned lately. Where is she, what is she doing? Don't know, don't need to know, and don't mind that the writers haven't mentioned her. Same with the dogs. I am comfortable thinking that Liz probably had someone to look after them or gave them to someone who had time for them. No need to fill in every little detail, and the dogs are one thing that I am perfectly fine with the writers choosing not to focus on. I don't think the writers are trying to slight us or make assumptions about us by omitting the dogs, either.
Great post; You get it!
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3 hours ago, SuzieQ said:
Agree that all their crimes are inexcusable.
When you say "Chicago PD viewers" I'm assuming you are dismissing that for Voight's introduction into the franchise, he was busted for trying to put a hit on Matt Casey from Chicago Fire? I get that it is so ridiculous that the'd head up the dog catchers unit, much less Intelligence which seems to be so prestigious to CPD. That alone makes the whole premise of the show totally unbelievable and their explanation for it, asinine. I've often wondered if they even planned on Chicago PD, and threw it together after the Voight character got so much buzz on Fire. Since his background is hopelessly flawed from his introduction, I guess we shouldn't be surprised that most of their writing doesn't make sense.
I omitted mention of his back story from 'Chicago Fire' because that would be too much baggage to carry forward for a new series without making the intelligence team a replica of the Street Crimes detective squad on the NBC 'Shades of Blue' crime drama. Voight is dirty, but not crazy corrupt like Lieutenant Matt Wozniak and his squad. "Shades of Blue' premieres on June 17 for season 3.
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2 hours ago, SuzieQ said:
I don't disagree with any of this but this show is Hank and the Intelligence Unit. If JB decided to leave the show, they would either get a new corrupt leader or they would show Antonio turning into Voight. This show is all about sliding morals and "for the greater good" types of internal conflicts. Even squeaky clean Antonio turned a blind eye to tactics when his kid was kidnapped.
Voight’s early prison time was related to his known conspiracy with criminals using a ‘street tax’, but as far as Chicago PD viewers are concerned had nothing to do with murder. He was released as part of a deal with IAB to work undercover which is why he was put in charge of the intelligence unit. The Bingham (Voight) and Browning (Olinsky) killings were personal, but still inexcusable. However, the entire team has selective morality when it comes to personal issues including Burgess (sister), Antonio (son) and even Trudy (father) when family members are in trouble. Voight and Olinsky took matters to the extremes, but the others almost went sideways as well.
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59 minutes ago, preeya said:
I disagree that "Woods is the good guy in this story"
I can't exactly recall what it was but when he was Voight's partner he did something illegal/unethical. He may not be as bad as Voight, but he is/was a dirty cop.
Woods is a dirty cop. When Woods and Voight were partners, Woods planted a gun in the home of an innocent man in order to cover up a murder committed by his CI. In the past, this same CI came to Woods to fix other 'problems' as well. The truth came out when the son of the CI used the same gun in a robbery killing. Woods let an innocent black man go to prison for 10+ years. Woods threatened Voight with insubordination to drop the case, but Voight uncovered the truth about the son. Woods forced the issue with charges against Voight at an oversight hearing, but the chief quickly ended the proceedings after talking aside with Hank. I still wonder if whatever Voight has on the chief will get him and Al out of trouble to avoid prison.
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23 hours ago, fivestone said:
Did anybody else watch this episode? I don't know what this episode is supposed to make me think of Hank. At this rate, it looks like it's gearing up to phase Jason Beghe out of the show, but then what would this show be without him as lead?
After watching the ending with Woods and Voight, I thought to myself the writers are putting Voight in prison for next season. Too bad. It does appear that Olinsky is leaving the show. The cop in prison scenario will ruin the series the same as what happened to other TV series like 'Suits' and 'House'. IMO
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8 hours ago, eel2178 said:
If Delilah is going to be used in a capacity to help solve crimes, I'm fine with her presence. What I don't want to see is a "Whoa is me! I'm the disabled mother of twins" story.
The writers have never presented anything to suggest that kind of attitude on her part. In fact, the actions of Tim have been anything but supportive of Delilah including the whining to the team about the broken sleeping patterns of the twins. No mention during this season of any help for Delilah at home caring for the twins makes no sense. A young mother paralyzed in a wheelchair taking care of newborn twins by herself is just nonsensical and lacking in any continuity after the McGee marriage and birth of the twins.
7 hours ago, slothgirl said:Delilah has never been the "woe is me" type. I can't see her character going that way now.
Amen to that.
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On 5/3/2018 at 11:26 PM, Neiman said:
That's probably what's happening, but I have to wonder how they proceed if Samar and Aram got married. He's shown how spontaneous (irrational?) he can be when her life is on the line, so it might be that one would need to be transferred. I actually never expected her to last this long. I like the actress and think she does a good job, but initially I wondered if her position on the task force was expendable since she came in to replace the agent at the end of season 1/beginning of season 2, like they may have a different person in that role each season.
At this point, the Samar abduction seems to be a plot device used by the writers to force Aram to finally openly express his real feelings for Samar. It seems that both of them avoid communicating their real feelings towards each other out of fear of being rejected especially Aram. Last season, there was an ongoing confrontation between them almost weekly because of the same lack of communication which led to hurt feelings until the issue was resolved between them at the end of the season. The Aram request of Cooper to get field training provided a chance for them to work together on cases outside of the office this season, but nothing happened except viewers saw an increased closeness at work. At this point, I would expect at least an Aram proposal and a formal engagement moving forward to next season. It makes little sense for Samar to get killed at this point in their relationship unless the actress wants to leave the show. The Samar/Aram relationship subplot is a welcome distraction from the ongoing Red/Liz conflict over the bones-in-suitcase saga. If Aram keeps his tech only duties and Samar remains as field agent, the marriage story line could work, but it depends on the skill level of the writers.
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On 5/2/2018 at 7:00 PM, eel2178 said:
I have no desire to see this. It has nothing to do with solving military crimes, which is what this show is supposed to be about.
ON 5/2/2018 AT 1:16 PM, VINCEW SAID:
The lack of any story line for Delilah given her disability and the challenges caring for new twins was a big letdown for this season. IMO.
Delilah has been a recurring character since season 11. She works for the Defense Intelligence Agency as a computer specialist. She works with NCIS as consultant on military crimes and tracking serial killers as well as terrorist attacks when requested by director Vance or Gibbs. Her paralysis was the vision of now deceased show runner Glasberg.
Some early examples:
11x12 Kill Chain - “When a stolen drone is linked to the elusive terrorist Parsa, the NCIS team partners with the Department of Defense, to track down the device before it is used for a large scale attack”.
11x20 Page Not Found - “After returning to her job at the Department of Defense after her injury, McGee's girlfriend Delilah finds a break in a controversial case, prompting her to turn to the NCIS team for help”.
12x18 Status Update - "After the body of a thief is found in a Marine's house, NCIS discovers the calling card of a terror group that Delilah and the Department of Defense have been tracking".
13x6 Viral - "When a petty officer's murder matches the M.O. of a local serial killer, the NCIS team must determine if this is the killer's latest victim or the work of a copycat". Margo Harshman (Delilah) guest stars.
She has good chemistry with Gibbs, Abby, Bishop and Reeves. It is puzzling why she has been absent from any follow on episodes after the twin births early this season given the writer emphasis on McGee home life after the rushed wedding at the end of last season.
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40 minutes ago, saber5055 said:
Feel free to YMMV and to not read my posts. I'm good with both.
Point taken. I felt compelled to support @Nieman as the show moves to the end of the season.
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52 minutes ago, saber5055 said:
......The dogs are a running joke similar to Kit Carson on the Jeopardy thread. However, like with much humor, . Below the surface is the real question. Not "where are the dogs" but "why are the writers treating viewers like we're brainless morons." They toss something in (like a dog on two different occasions) and then they're gone, like it never happened. This show is so disjointed and all over the place with storylines, it's worse than Lost in that way. "Hey, we got renewed, we gotta think up (translation: MAKE UP) some hook for this season."
Too much information and over analysis on writer motives. IMO.
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2 hours ago, Neiman said:
Am I the only one who doesn't care what happened to Liz's dogs and has no problem that they aren't mentioned?
I wouldn't be surprised if Samar didn't make it out of this one.
Amen to that. Who cares about the dogs? The dogs have nothing to do with the story line. Good grief!
I expect that the writers put Samar in danger in order for the relationship to finally move forward with marriage. The end scene with Aram at home getting out the ring seems to confirm that. IMO.
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3 hours ago, laredhead said:
I don't think Abby will die, but she will recover and decide to take on work with the charity that Reeves was helping. I think Reeves is killed, and that makes Abby reassess her life.
Having said that, I think the months long hype about Abby's departure has been overblown considering the episode last night. I found it a bit dull, and the fact that Gibbs immediately took on the case without much more than gut instinct was a little far fetched, IMO. I also didn't like the Sara character very much either. I know she was playing a person who has been injured, can't hold a good job, has money problems, and is trying to rear a child, but her attitude was off putting and demanding. I guess she was trying to do what got attention and it worked. This season overall has not been one of the best, and I have watched every episode since the series began.
The lack of any story line for Delilah given her disability and the challenges caring for new twins was a big letdown for this season. IMO. Margo Harshman must not have been available or the new producers just dropped her story after the unfortunate death of Gary Glasberg. I sense the Abby only episode next week will be a letdown as well.
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On 4/26/2018 at 7:18 PM, Cardie said:
By my thinking, she is the daughter of whomever James Spader is playing, someone who killed the real Reddington and assumed his identity. The Russian Ekaterina is her mother. Lilly is the daughter of the real Reddington and his wife. So all the gooey "I've found my sister!" stuff is moot.
The reason for concealing that "Red" is not actually Reddington must have to do with who "Red" really is. He may indeed be a Russian mole or a very deep cover CIA agent. Something sufficiently bad that the Task Force would have to lock him up. Of course, killing an FBI agent might suffice on its own.
I would imagine that all those years ago, "Red" was cornered, his cover blown, his enemies about to strike. So that Christmas Eve he lured Raymond Reddington to a meeting, killed him, and took over his identity. Meanwhile he and Kaplan faked the death of "Red."
From the beginning, many viewers might have surmised that Liz was in danger because she is the daughter of the real Reddington, but Garvey telling Libby that she was in hiding for nothing seems to now disprove that theory. The writers implied, during the Mr. Kaplan downfall, that she buried the suitcase bones of Katarina years ago, but it now seems those details were a fake out in order to prolong the story until the writers decided how to end it. It never made any sense that Tom had control of the bones unless to uncover that the fake Reddington was her real father.
Aram giving Samar her keys back is some kind of prelude for one or both of them in future danger in order to bring them together married at the end of season. IMO.
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We're getting a season 5! Woo-hoo!
Let us hope the new season is not full of more Trump administration allegories...
https://www.conservativereview.com/articles/bozell-graham-impeachment-frenzy-fictional-tv/
S03 E5: The Blue Wall 2018.07.15
in Shades Of Blue [V]
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Harlee and Loman were targets of the Riohacha cartel boss (Sebastian Ortiz) because they arrested his son (Enrique) the domestic abuser. The cable guy and the red bikini babe were hired by the cartel father to kill them over the false arrest. Ramsey was surprised to learn that the son was put in federal custody.
Harlee found the Nava book in Bennett's house. Cole does not live there.