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They just want to expand their very own publicity. It's nothing but a publicity stunt. Go and look at their Twitter account and it becomes very, very clear how this company uses everything with a mix of joking wink, pretending to care (they do things like using a hashtag like BlackLivesMattter to promote their stuff!). Nope, they don't really care about any matters but their money bag, while pretending to be progressive . Makes me sad to see, how many fans fall for it in a mix of naivity, ignorance, desperation and obsession for the show. Some wouldn't mind to prostitute the show even, because that would be pretty much what a sale to xHamster could be called. Meanwhile media of course love the scandal in sensationalist manner.

Street football not so much, it's fast, it's dirty, it's a lot of fun. Indeed, the narrative and structure was quite comparable to how street basketball scenes are played out on US shows. But street football matches can have some similar function in neighborhoods in football crazy places. Basketball might be it for US neighborhoods and gang masculine sporty showdowns there, football (or for the US folks soccer) is the thing for pretty much the rest of the world.

Rajan is the average dick, for the culture around him somewhat progressive but still stuck in it. He doesn't quite get that being nice and protective and helpful, a gentleman, doesn't equal being truly respectful and supportive, that doing seemingly a little bit of good is sometimes more harmful even than helpful and is far from doing things rights. Rose Tyler was a great companion but so was Martha Jones, and I loved Martha. Freema was one of the reasons I gave Sense8 a chance in the frist place, and Nominita is one of the reasons I got hooked to the show. Yep, sometimes it's cheesy and Amanita's family seems at times to be too good to be true, but sometimes a little bit of fairy tale fluff is exactly what is needed, an idea about how things could be good. I am a huge fan of gritty and dark and love film noir but as much need a dose of fluff sometimes. I couldn't stop laughing when Joaquin tried to grab Dani's bag. Wonderful line delivery by all actors. From the start found Jonas not as trustful as some people wanted to see him, ambivalent at best. Same goes for Angelica, though think she truly meant what she asked Jonas to do, to protect the cluster. But there are layers to both their motivations and actions.

And might be worth to pay attention to it. Interesting who shows up in the end and the conversation there. One of the reasons I love to watch this show more than once.

I beg to differ. Professional played basketball would look very much different as well, nothing like those two friends fun or rival matches so often shown on US TV shows or street basketball. It was street football or street soccer they played here, very much comparable with those backyard or public ground basketball matches but not so much comparable with official league football matches. That was no DFB club match, not even on Kreisliga level, it was some fun leisure time match. Germany is a football crazy nation, and after work company or other kind of football hobby teams are not unusal. 1. Felix did not just throw the ball away, he threw it to kick it. Not quite properly done, the ball should be stationary before kicked, but a quick free kick is something you can see even in league matches fairly often in midfield Quickly done to keep things going. In this case more wasted, they had no momentum to keep, but it's not a professional match 2. Of course the focus was on Wolfgang and Felix, mostly Wolfgang even, Kala marveling at his sweaty, muscular body, pretty much turned on by the sporty raw nature on display ;-) Made me grin, because, yep, that is exactly what happens when women watch football. Not. But sometimes. lol 3. Not sure who the other guys in their team were, though could have been some of Fuchs's guys I think, it's always mostly Felix and Wolfgang, with some casual people around maybe at a club, but they always seem to be on their own, and I was not surprised that it was just them celebrating 4. We don't get to see 2 minutes of the match straight, we see a cut of the match, scenes minutes apart, so think we shouldn't conclude that score happened right after the other 5. There are goalkeepers; it was not just Felix and Wolfgang playing in their team, though of course camera focus was on them, but in wide angle shots could see that there were maybe 4+1 players on each team, which would be a common player number in a street football team. Fuchs' team had proper shirts, which tells something about his character, likely has his own bar team or so, but Wolfi's team was playing topless, not because it was so warm but to differentiate the two teams. While shirts and even shoes are not that hard to afford, goalie gloves are a bit of a different thing. People playing football just for recreation and fun seldom have them, as they often don't have shin guards. The German word for kicking around the ball like that is "bolzen" and that was a "Bolzplatz" they were on. Some place, some empty site turned into a neighborhood football ground for kids and leisure teams to use. That place by the way has no grass in real, it's a tarmac one. Did anyone notice the elephant mural there? Nice beat in connection with Kala, who has a special relation with Ganesha, the Indian elephant god. But as well it tells were in Berlin that place is ;-) The mural is by a Berlin artist, Jadore Tong aka S.Y.R.U.S. As well it's a nice wink to the murals from season 1, notably in San Fransisco.

Agree, it was the one slur that made little sense in this list. If Wolfgang were a German soldier or police officer that could have made a bit of sense maybe but otherwise he barely ever would have been called that considering what we know of his biography. Unless maybe by some Russian immigrants like maybe his cousins if Wolfgang were bullied by them as typical blonde German pretty boy or so. Otherwise , Nazi is used if as slur more to attack people seen as rigidly enforcing their views and certain behaviours on others, or for people seemingly favoring the surveillance kind of order politics, law and order types, In German it is often enough used in combination with the slur "pig" as"Nazischwein" (aka "Nazi pig). Particular in the context the other slurs have to be seen in this one made little sense for Wolfgang. Maybe something like Mafiosi, communist, Stasischwein (Stasi pig), or IM Gangster (for coming from East Germany, IM stands for informant, people who were giving the Stasi information, betraying co-workers, friends, family to the Stasi, and Gangster to reference to the crime family) but unfortunately that would have been something hard to understand for anyone outside of Germany.

I feel your pain ;-)

The "rumor" of Bae Doona leaving I take not even as rumor but as nothing but clickbait buzz. The sites making headlines about it are not credible, mostly plain black-hat SEO clickbait sites doing nothing but earning their money by pay for clicks, SEO spam. One of the things such sites frequently still do is article spinning, reusing the same article multiple times with a few changes in it, so search engines might not detect the SEO hack attempt. It's a mix of picked up gossip, social media posts, sketchy news and made up fake news, could be done by a bot even. Unfortunately such sites have been pestering for a while already the news search for Sense8, creating false rumors of cancellation and dramas around the cast and crew, very annoying. When Doona is "examing the project", it only says that she is considering to work for other projects aside of Sense8, it doesn't say she plans to leave. A lot of actors work on more than one project a year. Not even people with contracts as regulars on one of the big full season (aka 22 episodes) US shows on broadcast or cable networks by now have exclusive contracts if they are any smart and so do other projects in between seasons. Miguel Angel Silvestre (Lito) has done filming for the Spanish TV series "Velvet", Tuppence Middleton did Dickensian and War & Peace in between. Did anyone cry they are leaving Sense8? What is true is that filming for season 2 has wrapped up (well, those social media post where from the cast). It seems there will be a Christmas special, Jamie Clayton tweeted that a while ago, but there is still no official date for that neither for the release of season 2.

It's Northern Ireland, which has its own jurisdiction while being a part of the UK, it's similar to England law but not all the same, in case you want to look up some day about the laws applying to the show's story. A sensational case she maybe would get, but doesn't mean Sally would succeed with it. One can question, if the emotional stress which might have lead to her miscarriage was result of the police work or result of her realization what the man did who she's married to and who is father of her kids. Sally already has enough sensation to deal with, media and particular yellow press feast on such a story anyway, so I am not sure if suing the department would be really in her interest. DCI Eastwood said, there will be an enquiry by the way. I get the sympathy for Sally, she's in an awful situation and has deserved nothing of this. Calling her "stupid and incurious" is hard, but on the other hand Sally did ignore things, she acted stupid, no matter what "good" (in the sense of understandable) reasoning she had for herself given her situation. Spector lied to her, he told her he had been in a relationship with their babysitter, a minor (age of consent in Northern Ireland is 16, Katie was 15), which is a sexual offense according to law, regardless what part Katie had in it. Sally broke up with Paul for a short time, but they get back together. She later wondered even, after talking to Katie, if Paul was lying and might have raped Katie. When they were arrested, Sally first thought, it was because of whatever happened between Paul and Katie. While she didn't know about what her husband was really doing and innocent in that, she did choose to turn a blind eye on some things. I would say, that was naive. Sure she was hoping by keeping silent and hiding things that somehow it would turn out okay, but things never turn out okay that way, more likely you make things even worse. I can feel compassion for Sally, particular for her miscarriage, and at the same time think, that she was stupid and made a huge mistake turning a blind eye the way she did. Maybe Stella could have shown a moment of compassion, but she was not shown as a type to show much compassion, warmth anyway. Not for adults, the one time she showed some feelings, or compassion, was when she was listening in on the interview with the child. Pretty sure most people would describe Stella more as an Ice Queen. She does have feelings, she shows them, but that happens usually very subtle, very controlled. She said and did some hurtful and questionable things all over the seasons. Still nothing that makes anything that Spector said something I could get any whiff of joy out. She doesn't get his situation he was in with having little children while "only" stalking women, holding back his compulsion to do more? Well, hopefully not. Paul called Stella a "barren spinster" to belittle her, to humiliate her, to hurt her by trying to question her womanhood, her humanity just based on that she is not married and has no kids. Stella might deserve some criticism but not that kind of offense.

It's the same every summer and winter break, isn't it? The stories and characters, new as well as the old ones, seems to have potential, yes, alright, but what do they in fact make of it then? I've seen so much more interesting and more elaborated ideas coming up in speculations and discussions by fans over the upcoming seasons and episode than have been told on screen. It's sometimes like this board and some other places are what the writer's room should be. They end the season with Jykell and Hyde but now this trailer with Aladdin and Jafar is teasing something utterly different. I get it, just some Steampunk in Storybrook would be boring, not enough things and known characters there for the wild mashup popculture story book ride.Such a wild ride can be fun (if well written, ehm), but shouldn't expect anything different. That in the final they talked of all the forgotten stories might be still the theme for the season. So no elaborate Aladdin arc there, not much of Jafar , a bit of a hat tip maybe to the Disney movie through props and scenes, doubt there will be much of Wonderland connection either, the savior talk more of a keyword reference than creating actual context. But it's great how some of you still don't give up hoping this show would turn to the better. It's a show about hope, isn't it ;-) Funny, hadn't had the time to indulge as much in SDCC geekiness this weekend, only just dipped my toes into social media, and one of the first things I saw was talk about Jafar recast and that it might have to do with Naveen being busy with a different show, with Sense8 (which is filming at the moment, and doing so on quite a world tour, just seen pictures of him being in Amsterdam). Following Sense8 news not OUaT anymore, but was curious to see how you discuss that news about Jafar and Aladdin now coming to the show. Guess some things don't change.

I don't know how Sean is using faves (or by now they are hearts and so more seen as likes) on Twitter, but being old school and long time Twitter user I for example use such faves as much if not more in the sense of bookmarks and things to keep track on for while, it doesn't equal liking or supporting something for everyone, after all with retweets, quoted or straight have a better tool to share what I like or point attention to something. So I would be careful about interpretations why someone faves something on Twitter, can be different reasons. Not saying. with that, that what Sean is doing on Twitter is any good though. I would understand if someone doesn't want to hold back their views anymore just for some alleged sense of professionalism. From a unionist POV: sometimes you have to speak up and take a risk, maybe even harm your chances for future jobs, but otherwise things never might change - but then better be clear about what is wrong and not vent in a somewhat muddy way, and from what I gather it's not that clear. I couldn't care less about the loss of Robin, aside of the usual notion of mediocre writing, I would care more about lordly treatment, mismanagement and bad working conditions. But guess that most uber-fans care more about their beloved characters than real world conditions and issues in the production of the show, so simply echoing their sentiment might be tempting. And the more fans then echo such reaction by Sean the more he gets sucked into that choir of fans whining about the dismiss of a character. Echo chamber at work.

Think one problem is that though a lot of people nowadays are used to use social media most have little clue how social media work, or any kind of media even, media illiteracy is a rather common thing unfortunately. Just because people grew up with something doesn't mean they automatically understand it. That ignorance feeds very much into an anyway widespread tendency for looking for "easy" explanations (which are often getting amazingly complex though, while truly easy, or simple, and often right explanations are dismissed as unrealistic or naive) and plenty of guesswork creating some sort of logic leading to conspiracy theories: There has to be a plan, that must have been something done by someone on purpose, no way they don't know what they are doing... Add that many people stay inside what is called an echo chamber or a filter bubble, they barely get to see anything discussed outside their circles - something not so new, anyone who grew up in a smaller town or in a village or any kind of close-knit community knows something about people getting stuck in a small world and mind, ignorant to other information, but it's interesting how much such habits persist online, where we could have access to so much more and very different sources and information often with little effort. How many people are still surprised when hearing/reading that what they get to see in their Facebook timeline is filtered and sorted by Facebook, based on assumptions the Facebook team has about what you would prefer to see, assumptions drawn from statistics of your recent and past websurf behavior, likes, comments, shares, clicks, turned into an algorithm controlling your timeline? How many people still overlook, that Twitter tailors the trends shown on the websites next to your timeline to your location and who you are following? Or do you know that those trends are anyway hashtags and keywords showing a significant increase in mentions in the past hour(s), not what people at any given time are tweeting about in huge numbers? So someone at the Eastcoast sees for example #Rumbelle trending - but that doesn't mean that it's trending as well at the Westcoat at that time, let alone worldwide and it doesn't mean , that many people are tweeting about it at all, just that it is emerging as something relatively popular in a certain area at the moment (it can help to read the help sites of Twitter support, they explain some things there, and if you're tech-savvy enough you can see some differences using different proxy, VPN). Always find it cute when fandoms talk about making something trend on Twitter, often sounds like starting a hunting party for the mystical holy grail to me. It usually has nearly as little information value as most polls on popular gossip, eh, review sites have. But even something like People's Choice awards says not that much about viewer numbers and popularity, they are more about who is able to create the biggest buzz and has the most devoted fans having nothing better to do for days than to vote. Egghead accounts might be new or little maintained, so likely some troll alias or spammer, but on the other hand plenty of seemingly legit, real accounts are fakes, trolls, spammer as well. Don't get fooled by existing profile pics, bio and not even by a large number of tweets about (seemingly) different things. Spammers are getting more elaborate, bots creating such accounts are getting smarter, and trolls anyway might invest some time to have a number of accounts to use. Many of those accounts are following a number of celebs just because they assume that everyone does, so it makes them look more legit. As they follow each other to make it look like there is some circle of friends. Not to mention cases where accounts trick people into following them, pretending to be an actor, singer, some emerging or even better known celeb for a while, preferred if those have no account themselves or no verified one yet. Occasionally those accounts later claim they were just fan accounts, but frankly, if that were so they would made that visible from the start. Had such cases just recently with a different series, on Twitter and Instagram. Or those lovely accounts counting on people's compassion, performing for example as kid with cancer and so tricking people not just into following them but occasionally even manage to get a number of retweets even by celebs. Sadly social media are a paradise for cons. Looking at the rather limited range of answers and tweets by Horowitz would say he could very well let a chatbot do the work on Twitter for him. Well, maybe it is already a chatbot working for him ;-)

Because it is no solution at all. Banning IP addresses is useless to get control of trolls and haters. An IP address is not like a social security number, it's not asigned to a person but devices You don't have the same IP address when using different devices, just think of the difference of home net (if you use a router your desktop, laptop and tablet at home will be a subnet, the router has the main address) and mobile internet use alone, but you might not even always have one and the same IP address when using one and the same device though. IPv4 are actually limited in number, and IPv6, a different standard with more possible addresses is still not that much in use. IP addresses are often assigned dynamically (DHCP), meaning they can change every time you disconnect or reboot the device. Banning an IP address is collective punishment, you will likely lock out a number of users from a site, not just the culprit, while the culprit with different device or the use of VPN, different proxy can very well still get access and annoy, using new accounts. While you might be able to block a simple internet consumer type casual ranter with that for a moment, it most certainly doesn't help much against the more tech-savvy trolls. Blocking/Banning is something different from figuring out the real life identity of a person eventually via the IP address they used at certain time to do a certain something, but even that is not always successful. Banning an IP address might work (more or less) for governmental censorship, aka stopping the population from getting information you don't want them to have, but that's about it.

Sorry, but when I follow that link I don't get to see much besides a spammy site plagued by bad coding and advertising pop-ups. Are they talking about this project done by a fan for fans and sold at the con: http://www.badgesforftc.com/ ? Or is that another thing? I am not even sure if that is one of the event organizers or more a fan using the con to sell stuff. Before going ballistic about something I prefer to understand a bit what's going on. I agree though in general, approaching things in a respectful and more diplomatic manner is usually more successful in getting things done than a rather aggressive shouting will do, and certainly it has longer lasting merits by building good reputation.

Who outside that closed FB group is even noticing that kind of bickering though? Not to mention that 175 Euro for a 2-day rather basic ticket (access to the panels, conference, vendor area, no autographs included, but you have the possibility to purchase autographs and photo-session tickets extra) is a lovely price - 3 days San Diego Comic Con with a lot more to offer are about the same price (but it's a lot more difficult to get those). I get it, such events cost money, and if you can't go big aka attract bigger crowds like comic cons you have to earn the money through high ticket prices. On the other hand, if having to pay such money can somewhat expect that people are getting finicky. I am not in that group, but would think with badges they indeed are talking about ticket design and not purchasable small pin-back buttons. Tickets at conventions often are designed as cards to wear around your neck or clip to your clothes, like name badges, sold instead of simple paper tickets. Makes them an extra item for collectors ;-) So of course people have wishes and hopes about the design.

You beat me to it. Among some nice insight into the core idea of the show JMS clarifies, that Lilly didn't "step down" or leave while production was well under way, but that Lilly took time off since before they started writing to focus on her transition. Maybe some remember some picture from the first table reads posted on Instagram, showing scripts. People with keen eyes paying attention already noticed back then, that only Lana and JMS were named on the scripts. Just because some gossipy yellow press/tabloid and celebrity.news media morons failed at getting this news earlier (oops, did their gossip pipelines missed out on that?), or somehow for a moment felt obliged to hold back (doubtful), they now made fake drama of it. Add some crappy rumor and reputation-killing misinformation spreading clickbait sites like those christianwhateverblabla.com clones. Sad thing is, such oversensationalized, misinforming, clickbait, churnalism media have an easy job. Fans particular jump readily for any tidbit of alleged news. Due time to get some different media attention. Good that the Sense8 social media team is finally a tad more active again, posting more pics from the "world tour", aka the filming. As fans have been showing some activity on Twitter, Tumblr, Instagram, posting pictures and celebrating recently #1YearSense8.

There is a wide spectrum of fan fiction, from the wish-fulfilling, drooling over characters and actors, rather embarrassing and should have better stayed in the drawer kind to well thought out and written ones, filling gaps, playing with detailing story lines and character development which on the show were not important enough to be developed or lacked development, or even creating interesting alternative universe variations offering different perspectives on how things could go a different way in different scenarios. As the motivation to write fan fiction can be a number of things, from flexing writing muscles to exploring different sides of your favorite shows/characters to detailing the wish-fulfillment dreams people have in their beds, and for many there can be a mix of motivations to write. The problem is that the different motives, ways and affects of this vast fan fiction spectrum is lumped together in general reviews and discussions. A lot of the wishful kind of fan fiction is something with usually little literary worth, and for outsiders barely bearable nor understandable. From the inside it simply enjoyable. Seeing it from a point of view of cultural studies, social science, anthropology it serves a purpose, one quite important for the writers and readers. It is a way to explore sexuality and romance and building relationships in ways, that in society still are often a taboo, thus it has particular for women a very important role concerning empowerment. Something that often enough is down played or ignored when that kind of fan fictions is decried as smut or naive, childish romance. I think it's one of the toughest things to write really good erotic literature - it's something barely to find with fan fiction, but I don't expect this side or area of fan fiction to be good literature, it's self-made fanservice so to speak, and it has its function. There are good ones though even in that branch of fan fiction. For some reason many outsiders, critics, those seeing themselves as normal, average, adult mainstream, always seem to neither see what function this sort of fan fic fulfills while as well wrongly they take it as all what fan fiction does. I disagree, that RPG are any more respected, only among nerds maybe. Self proclaimed normal adult people look down at that as well and judge it as childish and obsessive, something maybe understandable to do for a transition period aka the teenager years, but when grown up, people should stop doing such things. No surprise there that very often it is assumed, that many fandoms for fictional stuff, books, TV shows, movies are mostly composed of teenagers, which can be quite a wrong assumption. As many wrongly assume that fan fic is written by overly romantic or love sick teenagers. I do think, that the article, "Fandom is broken", that got some critical reactions, has a point. The author is not just questioning "fangirls" and romanticising fan fic blurring eventually lines, he as well if not more is questioning fanboys and their ways of fighting for their hero stories to stick to the canon they are used to, fanboys rallying against any attemps to open up to a more diverse world and against getting rid off all that toxic masculinity some so profoundly love (like GamerGate, the Mass Effect 3 uproar or recently reactions to all female Ghostbusters stand for, example the author names in the article). Problem I see is, that the author is coming from a more intellectual point of view while he at the same time doesn't reflect, for sure not in the article, how the world around eventually might be reflected in those "trivial" fandom demands and quarrels. He doesn't consider that different realities, the inner fictional realities, the writers', creators' realities, the actors, the audience's realities, the reality of business and society are in play, often sometimes in conflict, and often enough all these different realities in fandom discussions are mixed up, hard to distinguish. When I look around it's not just fandoms getting out of hand recently, unless you see for example people rallying for Trump, Sanders and Clinton off-line or online as fandoms and fanboy and fangirls, although some things suggest even to do so, at least for a social scientist. It's a new regime of absolut thruth rearing its head, in many places. It's a fight about the power of definition, about who affects, governs what, decide how things should be done, what is wrong or right. Sometimes it might seem easier to have such fights over what is deemed more inconsenquential like fictional stories and characters. Not just fandoms are struggling with figuring out how off-line and online world converge, how we can and should now define and shape relationships, personal interactions, with lines blurring or seemingly blurring. We feel a closeness with all kind of people that is merely an illusion, they seem to sit right with us in a room, but they don't, we think we know them, but we see only a tiny part of them, while at times we forget on the other hand how much of a person there indeed is somewhere in the distance behind some screen. It's interesting, how different Lana and Jennifer seem to handle conventions and fan interaction. From what I see it seems to me Lana is talking more to the emotional side, while Jennifer seems to have a more intellectual approach. Lana talks about the affect of the story, the character, the emotional impact it all has, Jennifer more about the work behind creating the character. I think both of these different approaches have merits for fans, as there are different types of fans, and some might enjoy both, even though I prefer the more intellectual one looking at the art of acting and filming. There was a more intellectual side in the fandom as well in the beginning, having fun musing and speculating which fairy tales and characters could be in Storybrooke and part of the stories, who is who, how do things connect, a mind for inter-texuality, but it became a lot more about emotions and romance over time. And as well some discussion about morality, but coming often from a more emotional corner as well. It's about more and more about feeling, less about thinking.

So someone around here has seen "We are the Night" - nice. There is the story, that Gansel had to rewrite the script a bit because the story had some similarities to Twilight, which meanwhile had opened successful the market for a new batch of vampire movies. I'd prefer "We Are The Night" over Twilight any time, even in the English dubbed version (pretty unusual, but, Germans dub every foreign language movie in German, maybe they hoped to be able to sell it better with an English version, lol) All 3 of the films you are mentioning were done by the same director by the way, Daniel Gansel, he likes to work with Max Riemelt. Another of Max's movie some at least by now seemed to have heard of is "Free Fall" (Freier Fall), where he plays a gay police officer coming new into a team, causing some feelings in one of his male colleagues. Brian J Smith is sure known by many as Matthew Scott in "Stargate Universe". Tuppence Middelton was busy. Although I just a short while ago realized that she was on the 2-part episode of Bones in 2008, which played in London. Tuppence worked with The Wachowski before on "Jupiter Ascending". Somehow I ended up seeing the movie more than once, and think it gets oddly better with repeated views, the kind of silly camp fun scifi good. And what a different character Tuppence played there, nothing sweet about that one. Tuppence played recently in two BBC series, "Dickensian" and "War & Pride". And shouldn't forget she was in an episode of the very good anthology series Black Mirror (it's a available on Netflix) Bae Donna has done movies with The Wachowskis before as well, she was in Cloud Atlas and Jupiter Ascending. But not the only work she's done. She was much praised for her acting in the South Korean film "A Girl at My Door", where she plays a lesbian police officers. Haven't seen it yet, but it is on my list. Jamie Clayton did that funny interactive webseries "Dirty Work". Recently she was on an episode of Motive. She is in the upcoming movie The Neon Demon in a small role, and has filmed scenes for The Snowman, a crime thriller with Michael Fassbender, Chloe Sevigne and Rebecca Ferguson, James Darcy and more, movie is in post-production. Freema Ageyman was one of Doctor Who's companions and as well on Torchwood. Aside of that she was a regular on the UK spin-off of Law&Order and in the Carrie Diaries.

Just watched Nerdwriter's recent vlog about intertextuality - and I had to think of OUaT. Nerdwriter sees a trend in Hollywood (blockbuster movies) to cheapen intertextuality to merely sentimental fan service, a ploy without much text. He calls it weaponized intertextuality. So, if anyone wonders why OUaT ist still running, there you might have one explanation: it's very much in line with that trend. While the writers managed at the beginning to give it some text, the past two seasons totally drowned in twists and references being there pretty much just for the sentimental thrill of pushing favorite Disney and some other fantasy characters into the show. Some lasted a few episodes, otherwise I would simply call them all cameos, because they seldom had much more meaning than that. I think for example not even Hades had much meaning as a character, despite him killing now just another true love of Regina. It could have been anyone doing so, it didn't matter at all that it was Hades. Could have been as much Zeus or Dracula, it would make little difference to the main characters and overall arc of the show. Nor does it make any difference for the audience, I think, because the writers don't create actual intertexuality. All they do is create little wow-moments of sentimental and nostalgic value, at best. Robin is an example for why such approach bites them. Thrown into the show as rather a cameo, they let him come back as love interest for Regina. They recast the character, guess because fo availability (?), but on the other hand looking at what they made of the character, it's interesting that it felt like they actually created a totally different character. Maybe Tom Ellis would have kept on creating a different tone playing Robin than now Sean did, but think much of it was due to the writing and the writers wanting, needing, Robin to be now a quite different character than the one they had created as one-off. I still am at a total loss why it had to be Robin Hood though. There was nothing, despite some disjointed dialogue lines maybe, that actually made it to me feasible why Robin Hood, that iconic outlaw, should be the one to woe Regina's heart and maybe help her to become a better person. I mean, I get it, the fun, of making an archetype good avenger the love of the archetype of feminine revenge and envy, that sure has some irony. But I barely noticed them working with the text of the tale or its many variations and even less creating new one for Robin inside the OUaT universe. So in the end I couldn't care less about his demise, I don't feel the loss that maybe Regina might feel at all, Robin is to me just some other rather cameo now gone. There was little text, as there was no intertextuality, all he was was a prop for Regina's character. Could have been anyone. They did a better job with Hook. I don't know, maybe they had more thought out about him before they brought him into the show, so it's less of a messy improvisation like Robin Hood was. Maybe it was because he more of a story on his own before he was turned into a love interest for one of the main characters. When looking at Belle there might be something to that, because Belle barely is anything more than a prop to Rumple, barely anything but his love interest. They tried a bit to give her her own story, there are chunks of intertextuality even, but that all seemed to have happened more as an afterthought. It feels to me like she was not meant to be much more than a one-off at first either, but they quickly improvised more to keep her on the show. And IMO are doing no good job with it. The writing is a hell of a sentimental fun ride, with little emotional (lasting) payoff though, and it's like a rubber ball bouncing of any attempts of a more layered view, reducing the appeal for a more intellectual type of geekery. Great shallow entertainment. But as long as the writers (and the cast) keep on babbling about the show creating hope, of character development meaning anything deeper, there will be plenty of people not in just for a sentimental fun ride, they are looking for meaning. The writers still make the network happy enough, they got another season, don't they. Doubt ABC would hesitate to cancel the show or move it to another place, particular not with the change they just had. Considering the overall picture in ratings and ongoing change in viewer habits I think those numbers are for ABC not bad. Of course they always would be happy if they were better, but the question is, what numbers are realistic. When discussing we have to keep in mind that the network have access to far more numbers and information about viewers and marketing statistics than any of us has. And they are interested in different things than most fans or audience are. The networks might not even give all numbers to the show runners, just an excerpt, though show runners or their production companies might buy some information on their own, to have arguments in budget talks, depending on how independent they are or can be. The networks and their analysts interpret what they think the audience wants, and they do that in numbers, they don't care about the details audience and fans care about. But not even how many watch is the most important number, but who the network hopes to be watching, and in the case of any broadcast depending at least to some degree on advertising, if that audience then attracts advertisers. In this case it's not important for example if the audience likes or dislikes a same-sex story, it's important if the advertisers the network wants to attract or has for that time slot are okay with their advertising being shown in such a context. And the advertisers will be comfortable with that and pay good for it, when LGBTQI people are one of their target groups or open minded, liberal, tolerant people are, or when the company wants to maintain a reputation of being open minded, tolerant, liberal, and they think or hope it's good for their business. There can be a difference between consumers of a product a company makes and customers of that company. In TV and film business fans so far are not the most influential stakeholders, they count as numbers, as a mass of consumers only. For the production companies, the writers, the cast and the crew the fans certainly are consumers of their work but are not their customers. The fans are not directly buying the show. Orza is right about that.

What boundaries? Think it's time that people, adults as much as adolescents, get better (digital) media literacy. No, knowing which buttons to push on your phone or computer screen is not it, not meaning that. It starts with awareness of where you are. The internet is a mix of very public, semi-public, semi-private and private, and we have to realize what is what and when to use what place for what purpose. Tumblr is regularly a public place, picture it as one of the central marketplaces of your city/town, if that helps, and a blog as one of the billboards set up there. Twitter regularly is an open public space for everyone to participate in unless you make your account private or sent direct messages. Facebook is in many ways a very public place as well, even though it once started out as more of a semi-private sort of peer group thing. Instagram is public unless you make your handle private or sent pictures privately. And guess what, when we are doing things in all public people can see us, hear us, everyone can, it's not in our control there at all who can see it. Worse, whatever we put out there into the public we might not be able to ever take back, someone can record it, archive it, it might haunt us years later. We might hope that the actor we so publicly and embarrassingly drool over might be so decent not to bother, or is too busy to do so, to not take a look or at least not let us know they do, but we have to realize that we have no control over it. So if someone doesn't want them to see their corny or even tacky fan art, adult/slash/femslash fan fiction, not even by accident, then they shouldn't make them public. There are more private places to use if someone wants to share. LiveJournal for example is still around, has more options for privacy and community management (think it still does, haven't used it for a while though), and there is some activity on LJ as well, but guess it's just more convenient nowadays to use Tumblr. But you can make a secondary Tumblr blog, password protect it, and thus have some control who is able to see your things even on there. But I think a lot of people want it that public, hoping for some form of recognition, some moment of catching a ray of fame, while maybe not considering that that fame can turn into something quite stressful. When sitting at home on your comfy couch with a nice cup of tea or coffee it might feel like a cozy small place, but the internet is big and often a very public place. Everyone can train to keep that in mind, but not all do. Younger people seem to be a tad more aware of it, but not even all of them are. I see an even bigger lack of awareness if it comes to GenX and older. Kinda funny how often adult people talk about having to make sure that kids know about the risks of internet, aka moving in a public place, while they themselves move around like ignorant klutz - not even considering things like asking their kids if it is okay to share those cute vacations pictures with the circle of dad's and mum's followers on Facebook (that is if the parents even know how to keep posts private or to a limited circle of people). Aside of the fun with stickers, funny faces, geo-tags, event-tags and so far lack of annoying advertising spam, this is a reason why younger people like apps like Snapchat, more private and temporary. Just not that good to share fan art. But how should the kids learn to handle it better when we adults, their parents and teachers, often enough fail at it? There is a thing that a lot of people IMO seem to be ignorant to. They want to be closer to their stars, want to see more of what they do and who they are, want to engage and the star to engage with them - and social media brings us seemingly a little bit closer, or makes one feel even as close at times as if they were good neighbours or friends. But surprise: That goes both ways. While most actors, writers, whatever little or bigger stars might be way too busy to notice most of what fans are doing, and mostly then just give a bit of love they've received back and choose to ignore the rest, as long as the stuff is published publicly on social sites, on the internet, they have every right to take a look at it and like everyone else to comment on it if they want to. As everyone else should, of course they too should know and heed respect and netiquette, but as fans are trying to break the wall so can they. That is something I find quite amusing about William Shatner: While I think he is often arrogant, he ignores boundaries fans expect their stars to keep while those fans themselves so seldom are ready to respect the same boundaries. Shatner is sometimes unnecessarily schooling people, but he is dead right when telling, that every time someone on Twitter uses the handle of a person (meaning @whoeverthename), reply or mentions, these tweets show up in those people's mentions and notifications. Whenever you hit the reply button to a tweet, everyone mentioned in that tweet you reply to will get the reply if you don't manually edit the handles out that shouldn't get it. So if you want to talk about someone without showing up in their mentions, don't tag them, maybe use # (hashtag) instead. - which I think is a good way to handle talking about celebrities and people of public interest unless you explicitly hope for their attention or want to direct what you are saying at them. But even then as long as your tweets are public what you say is public and everyone can comment on that - even the celebrity some seem to think should stay silently enduring on their pedastal. It's an open, public conversation and not a closed, private chatroom. Neither is Tumblr.

What To Expect From “Sense8” Season 2 Buzzfeed talked with the cast. It confirms, that Lana is doing this season alone, her sister Lily is taking a break. They talk a bit about the recast, but no new details there, making it only clear (again) that it was about different creative ideas. The family feeling. And then there are some hints by the actors for what's up for their chararacters in Season 2.

They probably do. It's the current hype. Captain America vs Iron Man though had some good stuff and worked as story quite good, different from Batman vs Superman. And different from this show. I really like when something is not just superficial action/fantasy entertainment, but people are taking things way too serious. Maybe because frictions in society are deep at the moment, and sometimes it's easier to get worked up over something rather trivial than get to the roots of things. And it sounds in many arguments awfully like people falling back on eye for an eye ideas, purely emotionally driven views on justice. It's a kindergarten version of justice: you get that piece of cake so I deserve the same piece, or it has to look exactly the same, no matter what, doesn't even matter if I need it, you got it, so I have to get it. And more, some revenge might seem justified, if you only look at the past, and it feels understandable, but it's nevertheless destructive for the present and future. ( next something spoilery about the new Captain America movie) Too many in this fandom taking things too seriously. Yes, I wish the writers of TV shows were more aware of many things and more thoughtful with their writing at times, but it's not just up to them. As much fans have to take steps back. There is no sole responsibility, we all have our share in things. That goes as well for the different factions inside fandoms. It's never just one side, but as long as we are stuck in the blame game, who has done worse, who has the more stupid arguments, who has to take more responsibility, things will stay ugly and deadlocked. Think, if people would focus on the writers, they would have to ask themselves, why they are really still watching the show. Why buy something of little satisfactions and little quality? But seems like many are so into the characters, they can't let go of it. If it were drugs like alcohol, would probably call it an addiction. The good thing is: Like with other fandom drama, in time things will be forgotten. Or at least look in hindsight as not as nasty anymore, and present fandoms always look worse than any other before, but they barely are.

Experience of people can be different. You had the experience, that many around you picked up things and seemed not so surprised when you came out as gay, but other people can tell different stories. There is no rule book about how to be gay/lesbian/bisexual or how to come out as such, it's something individual. I know that some people around me still have no idea that I am bisexual, some thinking I'm heterosexual, a few others that I am lesbian, and a few forget that I already told them. And trust me, I do give looks, but not everyone might see them or not see them as such. Particular that someone might be bisexual is something that doesn't come to mind for a lot of people, we're very used to think in binary if it comes to this, in my experience even gay/lesbian people sometimes struggle to get that idea. Just look at how many people now talk of Ruby being lesbian while in her case it would at least be more obvious to talk of bisexual given her history with boyfriend. There were some people seeing Red as potentially bisexual before. Just take a look at a number of fan fictions about Red and Belle, ship name Red Beauty, based on pretty much two moments they had in season 2, in one episode. Dr. Whale and Red had not much more of a moment, but as well plenty of people ship those two. But right, Red was with a guy before, and flirted with another, so of course that wouldn't have been out of the blue for her to be with another guy. Stick to what you're expected to do / to be. And of course could say as well, in fan fiction pretty much any two people having had one scene are shipped by someone, no, don't even need a scene together (see particular cross-overs). Wishful thinking but also keeping open minds for possibilities. Nothing was telling me before, that Red could be nothing but heterosexual, but I am quite simply by now very much open to the idea, that any fictional character can be bisexual or even a closeted gay/lesbian unless it is clearly expressed otherwise. To approach romances and relations this way, and not anymore the usual way of assuming someone is heterosexual unless shown otherwise, creates a lot of interesting possibilities and room for character development and stories. Why limit imagination with whatever society as defined as norm in this, imagination is there to transcend such societal norms, to explore and to stretch our minds, isn't it? But I am aware that enough people still even deny, that Mulan could have been in love with a woman, with Aurora. People deny that despite some scenes that can be interpreted otherwise. It was there already rather early in season 2 for some viewers, not just with the scene of Mulan pushing Aurora's heart back into her chest. As far as we know the writers haven't written it that way though, it just happened for some viewers on screen, a subtle chemistry between the actors. Looks, reactions that could be taken as signs of feelings, but for some those moments are just scenes of loyalty and friendship. The difference is, we did see Mulan and Aurora interact over a number of episodes before, saw some sort of relationship develop, but it was never explicit which kind of relationship. The scenes then in season 3 were left ambiguous, it was only clear, that Mulan had feelings for someone, she never said for who. From the scene people guessed Aurora, and it's to me the more obvious one, but others guessed Phillip. The sad truth is that even in this episode now Mulan still didn't get to say it out loud to someone, just that she had feelings for someone, not that it were for a woman. So those denying it was for Aurora still can do so and hang on to the thought Mulan were in love with Phillip. Nothing aside of interpretations and some words by cast and crew say that Mulan had feelings for Aurora, not if you don't want to see it. A simple sentence in this episode could have made all the difference and help to do even more for representation. Aside that Aurora and Mulan played much more of a role in the second season than Red, Mulan or Dorothy played now in season 5, the difference is, people had over 2 years by now to get used to the idea, that Mulan was in love with Aurora, is bisexual or lesbian, so it feels like the way more obvious choice to many now, like something that wouldn't come out of the blue. Though bet for a few it still would, who in the average, casual audience remembers what happened about 3 years ago on TV? Red was no main character, she had very little screen-time since season 3, and they didn't develop the character that much at all, and. pretty much most of what they now did with Red, from her searching for her pack up to her falling in love with Dorothy came out of the blue. I have some head canon, making it working quite well for me though, but if you stick rigorously to what was shown on screen, there was not much to see, was there. Exhausting that so much in OUaT so often is left to the imagination of viewers. At least we got a little more than just Red stepping into Oz, finding sleeping Dorothy a second later and waking her up with true love's kiss. Aurora and Phillip didn't even had that, no before interaction shown to us. But of course we didn't struggle with that, because they are one of the iconic TL pairings by the grace of Disney and the Brothers Grimm. Just a reminder, in the fairy tale versions of Sleeping Beauty and Briar Rose they didn't meet before, in the Grimm tale she slept 100 years, the prince fell in love with rumors and seeing the beauty of the princess, he had no idea of her personality, it didn't matter at all, and she had not even a chance to fall at least for his beautiful smile and body, the kiss just worked. TLK was the beginning of their relationship, not the highlight after a number of dates and months or years of trust building. Thankfully though it didn't work like that in the live action Disney movie, and the two had even met for a few minutes before in that version. I am no fan of that kind of true love super myth, but on the other hand OUaT barely transcends the fairy tales nor the Disney re-tellings anymore, they hardly ever did. The faint idea of fairy tales and fairy tale characters confronted to work with the frame of how things are in more or less our reality got completely lost sometime I think during season 2. This episode did things as good, or not so good, as OUat is doing things, even the main characters and relationships are underdeveloped often enough. Or the development is not shown on screen as much as we wish for. Too bad there are not more traditional gay/lesbian/bisexual true love pairings in fairy tales and saga or Disney works around, could have made things so much easier to work with. ;-)

Looks to me like an attempt to follow in the wake of E.L. James. I am somewhat amazed the author hasn't pulled the fan fic by now, it's still online. She is even advertising at the end now for her book, the first of a series, of course claiming, she wrote an entirely new story. Not sure if she did, if one could say so, didn't read it. But think someone is walking a very thin line there. I get the old sentiment about fan fic being written purely for fun, but that was always more a sentiment in my view. Sure, many do it for fun, some use it as writing exercise, but as Shanna already pointed out, that doesn't solve the legal issues fan fic has. Fan fiction is on the verge of copyright infringement anyway any time, even when not monetarized. Amazon's Kindle World as arrangements with companies, and accordingly the work is limited there to a couple of fictional worlds, but guess "true" fan fic fans snub it anyway. As long as we all have to find ways to make a living though and are not yet in utopian Star Trek situation, where on Earth no one seem to have to worry about income, I find it on the other hand bit arrogant to get all worked up about people trying to make a living or add something to their income with things they like to do. It's great to have some idealism, but maybe the real problem lies somewhere else in this case. Find it somewhat amusing, when people devouring a fan fic kinda TV show of Disney tale characters combined with other fairy tale/ fictional characters and a few originals ones get a fit about someone trying to sell her "fan fic" inspired work.

I am sure you want to be an open minded person in this and unbiased, I assume all here want to be, but no one is unbiased. Even I am biased, and not just biased because I am an out and proud queer person and so see things with a rather queer bias, but I as well had and still have even plenty of societal images in my head, defining what is normal in society, if I want that or not. I had to overcome a lot of these images in my life to feel comfortable and good with myself and to know myself. It's like curses, at times we are not even aware we are cursed. Sometimes we can't break those curses alone, it takes some help eventually and strong magic to get out of it. And it's not one single big curse we can get rid of at once, it's a big bucket full of curses, each working on its own but as well they support each other. Many of those curses are inherited, no one can remember how they came to be, they just are on us. And they are something we mostly don't put willingly on ourselves, it comes from outside, or feels like they do. Snow didn't need to discover, that she is into men, she was in our minds already heterosexual and still is regardless that she never gave an explanation, never said something about it, and was never shown as rejecting a woman. There never had to be character development about Snow being heterosexual, never needed any musing or talks or whatever of Snow coming to terms with her being as a woman into a man. They didn't have to give any thought about that, just about, that Snow is into Charming. No, not even that, because in most people's minds those two were already an item before OUaT became a show. Belle hadn't to discover, that she is into men, but I am rather sure that most assume she is, that she is heterosexual. As most assume that Emma and Regina can't be anything but because they have only been shown with men. As some noted, they could randomly take any character, who we didn't have on our radar to suddenly fall in love as woman with a woman, or as man with a man. Yes, they could, and it's okay. It's an unsettling thought, that things are not as straight as we prefer (pun intended), that a character might be not quite what we thought, turns out to be different in a rather important part of our individual identities, in their sexuality, different from us. Better give a warning about that, so people would be less upset, can make sense of it. What I see her on the forum and other places, many wanted the writers had given thoughts in Red being interested in women, not just about Red being in love with someone. Either, because people need to wrap their heads around Ruby being bisexual and not as they thought hetero, but many as well because they feel a need that people accept and understand that Red could very well be into men and women and always has been. Either way, it means giving not just thoughts about Red being a someone falling in love with someone, but as much if not more thought about the gender of the person she falls in love with. People have somewhat accepted the idea by now, that Mulan had feelings for Aurora, accepting looking back, that scenes could very well be interpreted as showing such feelings, but there are still enough people denying, that Mulan was in love with Aurora. And enough people argued, how can that be, where is the explanation, the development, Mulan was obviously into Philip according to them, wasn't he, and Mulan was never before shown on the show to be into women, and not in even flashbacks being into women, it came out of the blue. And of course they have to make the one at the moment unattached woman the lesbian, and of course the warrior type, that is annoying, a trope, they should have avoided. I see here a pattern at work, a pattern in audience perception, fans' reactions. No one cares about Dorothy that much, because people haven't connected with her much at all so far as a character on the show. But what do you think would be, if she had been around longer, and not shown to be in any relations, her sexuality not been an issue so far? As an icon character there are people not liking the idea, probably being unaware that Dorothy is a gay icon and even more, that there have been some eyeing the relationship with Prince/Princess Ozma as a possible LGBTQI story in the Oz world. And I have seen a few complaining, that of course they had to make Dorothy a gruff, harsh woman and warrior type. Do lesbians always have to be like that, couldn't they make her more friendly, more lipstick cute one for a change?Meanwhile people complain, that on plenty of other shows (real life dramas) lesbians are more lipstick cute femme and too seldom butch types, go figure. Now picture them bringing Mulan and Dorothy together. The lesbian warrior duo. Wouldn't have been right either. I remember some people struggling with Callie's development at Grey's anatomy, it was not accepted right away by everybody, some argued, that she was in love with men before and shown only fooling around with men, and she can't all of a sudden be a lesbian - people always struggle with the concept of bisexuality. Coming out and embracing it and being accepted for it by friends and co-workers and family was a part of Callie's story, and that was okay, it was an unobtrusive coming out story, but still a coming out story. Of course by now everybody got more or less used to it, and Grey's knows to keep Callie mostly away from flirting with guys to not confuse audience now again, so it's not a big deal anymore on that show. But coming out doesn't always have to be a part of the character's story, for the characters in their fictional reality it might be no issue at all. You need an explanation for Red to be something you didn't expect her to be at all, because the thought never crossed your mind before, that she could be bisexual. I had that thought before and I don't need an explanation an coming out moment, and think I am not the only one in this. You likely might be right, that this thought might have not crossed the minds of the writers before season 5 either. They never had to think about making a character heterosexual, because that is the normal, only eventually how to explain why this woman and that man fall in love with each other, not with someone else. Red didn't get any special treatment ín this, she was treated like any other character, her sexuality needed no explanation. The story written for the show is not about Ruby being now bisexual, it is about Ruby being all of a sudden in love with someone whatever gender that person has, and that love story was not well developed. They could have dropped some male Donald into the woods of Oz and it wouldn't make more sense. But many make it sound as if Ruby being now bisexual is at least as much of an issue as Ruby getting a true love's kiss with little development of a story. Many do struggle with Ruby being not what they assumed so far, not heterosexual like characters usually are. I am there with you, that this love story was somewhat rushed, but I am not there with you that part of the problem were Ruby being bisexual without any preparation, without coming out story and no wondering on the side of the characters about Ruby loving a woman. I think you do hold Red's story to a different standard, when you are saying, you don't get why Red is bisexual, you don't feel it, you see it as coming out of the left field, instead of saying, you didn't see it coming, that Red would fall in love in just an episode. Red being bisexual is not the issue, her love story being cramped into one episode is. A&E said they wouldn't do a special but a love story just like any other they've done, and they did that. No coming out story, but Red falling in love with Dorothy, and both characters happen to be women. And no, it was not a well crafted five-episode-dinner served with thought and love for detail, it was just the usual mediocre OUaT diet.