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  1. That's disgusting. Regarding the adoption magazine cover Carly was on; that was a small-time press, I believe, and it was only for adoptive parents or people thinking about adopting. Brandon and Teresa wanted to share their story with other people and tell them, "It happened to us. After years of waiting, we were finally able to get our daughter. It will happen to you, too." That's entirely different from plastering Carly's face all over the cover of People like Tyler seemed to compare it to. Hell, B&T could put Carly's face on a billboard and still ask Tyler not to share her photos on his fanpage. She's their kid, not his, and they get to call the shots over how much exposure she gets. I really am so curious over how Carly will feel about all of this when she's older. As an adoptee, she's in an unusual position because her birth parents have been on TV and she gets to see exactly what they and their families are like. She doesn't have to wonder why she was given up because the answer is in this series. She doesn't even need to see them, if she really chooses to, because they're presenting themselves so publicly to her already.
  2. They actually don't have any visitation rights to Carly at all. That's the dumbest thing about this. For all of Tyler's rantings about how B&T are violating his rights, he doesn't have any. He and Catelynn get to see Carly because they have the privilege to. They gave up their parental rights to have a say in how she's being raised or to see her whenever they want. They gave up the rights to use her photos as they see fit. So Tyler needs to cool it with all his grandstanding about being Carly's rightful father. Yes, his sperm helped create her, but it doesn't mean anything. She has a life separate from her birth families'. Her family is not Tyler's family.
  3. Catelynn and Tyler are almost exactly like their parents. They don't work, don't have an education beyond their high school degrees, and live off of money they didn't really earn themselves. The only difference is that C&T aren't hardcore alcoholics or drug abusers...yet. They're both genetically predisposed to developing some kind of substance abuse problems if they aren't careful. They also both grew up in chaotic environments where drug use and heavy drinking were the norm (well, I know Kim's house was semi-normal, but I have no doubt that Tyler was exposed to those issues as well). If they really don't want to repeat their parents' mistakes with Nova, then they need to really start working on themselves and doing everything in their power not to end up like Butch and April. I don't feel like they care all that much. They probably figure they're better than their parents because they're not serious addicts. But there's always that possibility and they need to be more aware of it.
  4. Yep. Tyler point-blank asked them if they would have more contact if not for the cameras, and Teresa said, "Yes, we would." Now, she and Brandon have restricted contact over the years, but that's normal in most adoptions. I don't think Catelynn and Tyler were prepared for the restrictions because Dawn misled them about what to expect from the situation. For example, they thought they would get to know everything about B&T before the adoption was finalized; several months later, C&T were throwing a fit because they didn't know Carly's last name or hometown. Dawn let them believe they were going to have a lot more contact later down the road, so they were completely blindsided when it didn't happen. Granted, their being public figures has undoubtedly influenced many of Brandon and Teresa's decisions regarding contact and exposure, but I think a lot of C&T's issues stem from two facts: that Dawn lied to them, and that they failed to get any kind of adequate therapy to cope with their trauma and grief. Then there's the fact that Dawn had C&T and B&T meet in the first place despite the fact that the former wanted an open adoption and the latter wanted a closed one, which just raised so many red flags. Even though they compromised, somebody was bound to get upset in the end because the situation was set to fail from the beginning.
  5. Brandon and Teresa tried to establish an understanding a couple seasons ago when they confronted Tyler about his posting the Carly video online. Brandon even threw Tyler a bone and said he understood why Tyler felt frustrated abut not being able to share Carly's photos. But it wasn't good enough for Tyler, given that he's once again getting angry over the same old petty bullshit. I mean, B&T have slowly been bringing Carly out of the public eye for about three years now. They stopped letting their meetings be filmed and stopped letting Carly's pictures be shown both on and off "Teen Mom". Teresa told Catelynn and Tyler that she and Brandon would be more open if it weren't for the cameras. Not being allowed to discuss their meetings with B&T or what's going on with their adoption seems like the logical next step. Catelynn and Tyler have spent seven years talking about it. Everybody watching the show knows what they did for Carly. It's pretty much run its course on this series.
  6. I'm glad the giant Carly blanket still lives on in this "fandom". That was incredibly surreal, even all these years later.
  7. Adoptions are built on mutual trust and respect. Tyler repeatedly disrespects Brandon and Teresa, and has said insanely shitty and hurtful things about them. A couple times he has said he wishes he had placed Carly with another couple. He also tries to passively use Carly against them by indirectly telling them through his rants that Carly will be sad and hurt if she loses contact with him and B&T will be the ones to blame---or, worse, Carly will turn against them in favor of her birth parents. That;s not how an adoption should work, and the fact that it's on TV and Tyler has these crazy fans encouraging his douchebaggery only make things worse. B&T no longer trust Tyler because they realize that he will twist every little thing they say and do into this huge vendetta against him. I don't know if it's because Cate gives him a watered-down version or not. but he always gets ragey and self-entitled whenever they make a decision he doesn't like. Tyler clearly sees B&T as a threat and has made it clear he doesn't trust them, either. They've gone above and beyond for the last seven years and he continues to shit all over them. Enough is enough.
  8. Exactly. It's not like the show is being filmed 24/7 so they literally don't have a moment of privacy to discuss the adoption. They're only on camera a few times a month. Tyler and his stupid pompadour can survive. I can see Carly getting a really well-paying career and then Catelynn and Tyler trying to hit her up for handouts like their families undoubtedly do to them. They'll need the money to buy more pot and chicken quesadillas and old lady hats and puffy vests and God knows what else.
  9. This is what really bugs me about Tyler using the show to go on his rants about how unfair he thinks Brandon and Teresa are being. Tyler thinks that he has a lot of importance in Carly's life right now, that he has a huge impact on this little girl he only sees once a year. He has to know that Carly will see this show someday---whether she seeks it out on her own, or her friends or parents show her---and I think he thinks that his rants will endear her to him, make her see that he was the only one who cared about her well-being when her mean old adoptive parents were thinking about cutting him lose and when her clueless birth mother was all too willing to appease their tyranny. All those ravings about how Tyler is only one who is considering Carly's feelings could be used to manipulate her farther down the line when she gets old enough to understand the circumstances behind her adoption better. He could easily tell her, "See, Carly? See? I was the only one thinking about how you would feel! It was all me!" The thing that Tyler does not get is that Carly may not feel that way when she sees the show. She could easily see last night's episode and all the other episodes when Tyler badmouthed her parents and think, "This assclown says he loves me yet he disrespects my mom and dad, wishes he had given me to somebody else? What the hell?" She could be put off by his rants and not want anything to do with him when she gets old enough to make that decision herself. Just because Carly likes visiting Tyler at seven does not mean she'll like visiting him when she's seventeen. Hell, she could cut him off not because of the awful crap he said but just because she doesn't feel the need to keep tabs with her birth parents and their families. I feel like Tyler (and, to an extent, Catelynn) don't completely realize that Carly may not want a relationship with them once she's a legal adult or even before then. She has her own life and they aren't a part of it like they want to be. Tyler using the show to go on rants against B&T certainly aren't helping their case one bit. While nobody can say how Carly will feel or what she'll want to do in a few years, Tyler putting pressure on her already may not win her over like he expects.
  10. Man, you beat me to it. I totally thought Amber bought that ring herself. Between no job and paying back all that child support he owes. Matt probably couldn't even afford to buy her a Ring Pop let alone ~diamonds~.
  11. Carly would very much like to be excluded from Tyler's narrative, one she never asked to be a part of.
  12. When Tyler and Cate were having their argument over the adoption, Tyler told Cate, "All you care about is seeing Carly!" He said this in a really accusatory tone, like it was an awful thing that she just wanted contact with Carly and was---God forbid---willing to listen to and work with Brandon and Teresa to keep that happening. Cate has stayed with him after he's said and done some terrible stuff, but this takes the cake. How she could stay with the man who so blatantly and carelessly is jeopardizing her relationship with the child she placed is beyond me.
  13. Catelynn and Tyler have talked about Carly coming to stay with them for the summer when she got older and how, maybe, she would come back to live with them once she hit eighteen. Catelynn has also spoken about Carly being super-close to Nova growing up. They're both still deluded when it comes to what their relationship with Carly will entail. I honestly don't blame B&T for not speaking to Tyler. Like I said before; he's an asshole who is all to willing to throw them under the bus instead of trying to make amends for the awful shit he's said about them. It goes both ways. Catelynn chose to saddle herself with Tyler and marry him despite knowing that he has a volatile temper and freaks out at the slightest stuff. It may be sad to say, but that's her shit to worry about, not Brandon and Teresa's.
  14. Well, Matt did say that his mother is satanic...which makes a lot of sense when you realize how horrible Matt really is. You can tell that Amber was over him, though. She didn't want anything to do with him and she definitely didn't want to meet his cousin. She also announced that she put their wedding on hold. She's so close to pulling the plug on their relationshit.
  15. I definitely don't see it as blackmail. It's not like this is a normal adoption situation. Catelynn and Tyler are on TV every week, talking shit about their daughter's parents for all the world to see and deluding themselves into thinking they're going to have this super-close realtionship with Carly and that she'll return to them and their white trash families as soon as she turns eighteen. Tyler also claimed last season that Carly called him Daddy and he did nothing to correct her. I highly doubt it happened, but if it did, then Tyler was admitting that he deliberately confused Carly so he could brag about their ~connection~. He's definitely a toxic influence who really doesn't need to be in her life. Brandon and Teresa are Carly's parents and, besides Cate, seem to be the only people in this franchise who care about her well-being. Yes, she's pseudo-famous, but that doesn't mean they can't pull out of the show to protect her as she gets older. They've been reducing contact steadily over the years, and stopped letting their meetings be filmed when Carly was about four or so. I think this thing has gotten way out of control, but I don't blame them for a second for cutting ties with filming. As for Tyler...fuck him. Maybe if he weren't such a sniveling little asshole who says---on TV---that he would've picked different adoptive parents for Carly, B&T may be more willing to talk to him. You can't insult people like that on television and then expect them to be courteous to you in return. He backed himself up into a corner with that one, and all his self-entitled ranting and raving isn't helping his case. It's just probably influencing B&T's decision to only communicate with Catelynn.
  16. I still love that scene a couple seasons ago after Nova is just born and Tyler texts a picture of her next to Carly's to B&T. They never respond to him, but Teresa calls Catelynn a little while later and has this nice chat with her. As this is happening, Tyler tells his mom, "They never answer me, but they'll back to Cate right away." I think he knows that they don't like him and only put up with him for Catelynn's sake. That maybe why he's so ornery and entitled when they talk about B&T. He can't stand the fact that they can't stand him.
  17. I think B&T prefer only speaking to Catelynn because she's easier to get along with and she's less likely to blow up at them. I know a couple seasons ago Teresa did speak to Tyler when he posted that Carly video on his fan page; he came in with the phone in his hand and told Cate about the conversation he and Teresa had. So I think they may speak to just Tyler occasionally, but choose not to because, again, he's an asshole and Cate is more willing to agree with B&T or at least not raise such a ruckus. Nobody's brought it up yet, but one of the producers asked Tyler if it was odd that Teresa was calling. He said something like, "It is odd, but hopefully this means that Brandon and Teresa will start talking to us normally instead of scheduling and controlling everything." Maybe it's just me, but it bugged me that he implied that it's abnormal that B&T don't talk to them on a constant basis. I mean, how could they when C&T's entire lives revolve around this show? Teresa even pointblank said that there would be contact between them if it weren't for "Teen Mom". Besides, it's not like most adoptive parents and birth parents are besties who talk to each other once a week; schedules and "controlled" environments are where it's at. Brandon and Teresa have already reduced so much contact already and hardly talk to Tyler at all, it seems. That chance to have ~normal~ interaction is long gone.
  18. I heard that, too. I think Tyler thinks that he, Cate, and B&T share custody of Carly and ergo C&T have just as much of a say in how she's being raised. What part of "You signed away your parental rights forever" doesn't this assclown get? I love how deflated he looked when he asked Cate if she would paint her house tan if it meant seeing Carly and she immediately said, "Of course." He changed his tune real quick, but I think he was expecting her to say no so he could continue to go on about how unfair Brandon and Teresa were being. That conversation was one of the few times I saw Cate get genuinely annoyed with Tyler. You could tell she was having none of his shit. Now she just needs to get more of a backbone and she'd be great. As for Matt and Farrah, I loved that he said she was dead to him all because she told Amber to dump his ass. That really pissed him off. You know this show is getting weird when Farrah Abraham is the sanest and most rational cast member thus far. What is going on?
  19. Thanks for clearing it up. Now I don't know what I'm going to do tomorrow night haha.
  20. Thank you! Please tell me you were a TMJ commentator, too. I know a few of my fellow junkies migrated over to Reddit, and I've considered making an account there, but I just like this forum so much.
  21. I can see Catelynn choosing to explain what Teresa said so that everybody will know why they're not talking about the adoption anymore. Maybe Teresa gave her the okay so that people won't be confused and then said, "But after this episode, you guys are done."
  22. I used to be a regular commentator on Teen Mom Junkies (RIP) and my screen name was Catelynn's Carly Blanket. Unfortunately, I couldn't find a photo of the blanket in question. Ah, well. Tyler, shut up. We all know that you do not film the show everyday. You can get away with not talking about the adoption on camera. You just don't want to lose your cash cow aka Carly.
  23. Exactly. Carly and the adoption are Tyler's bread and butter. And the fact that he's saying he's willing to lose his relationship with Carly over being able to publicly talk about her is heinous. It had shades of that infamous Butch quote in which he told Tyler that he loved cocaine more than his kids. Well, now Tyler is effectively telling Carly that he loves the show and its ratings more than he loves actually seeing her. Also, why is he saying he and Cate wanted a closed adoption? I'm pretty sure they wanted a completely open adoption with tons of contact and visits. Don't act like you wanted to cut contact off from the get-go, Big Boy. And don't act like Carly will be depressed if and when you stop being a part of her life. She doesn't need white trash like Tyler messing her up and confusing her about what kind of relationship she should have with him. It's not like she sees C&T once a month; she'll be okay without them. Anyway, I bet this is because Brandon and Teresa saw last season's episode where Tyler bragged that Carly called him Daddy. He deliberately confused their daughter for a pointless power-trip. It was most likely the last straw.
  24. Yeah, Maci, you had no symptoms of pregnancy...except for that huge-ass belly. What a freaking liar. Also, didn't Amber already meet two of Matt's kids? I heard she met his oldest son.
  25. I'm rewatching the end of the second episode and the scene with Maci and Taylor is so incredibly fake. You could see Taylor waiting for his cue when Maci was blathering on about joining gym memberships. I'd be insulted that these two are trying to pull the wool over our eyes if they weren't so pathetic.
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