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Kyle, Dorit, Mauricio, PK really showed their ass this time. All horrid people. And no Kyle, it is not good to see this "new" Erika letting loose and acting like a drunken fool being inapproprate to Garcelle's children. As if she wasn't cringeworthy enough propositioning Garcelle's married son to do a threesome, she makes it worse by telling her 14 year old son to get the F out of here. Erika should have called Garcelle the next day to apologize for all of it, not waited to sheepishly run into her at Sutton's dinner party. I wish Sutton would get tougher with these women, especially Kyle and Rinna. They are not her friends.

Sutton should cut her losses with Diana. She is unworthy of Sutton's attempts to genuinely try to connect with her. WHO TF was Kyle to pull up a chair and insert herself in their conversation in the first place? Let alone to get physically and verbally aggressive toward Sutton when she talked about her prior miscarriages to the point of implying she was lying!! Who does that? So many people have had fertility struggles and miscarriages in their past that don't talk about it. Between laughing at Erika cursing at Garcelle's son and bullying Sutton, it's not a good look for Kyle.

Emily is so obnoxious and needs to STFU. Gina says Shannon has to answer for all the ding dong things she did meanwhile Gina has an exorcism and leaves gifts for ghosts in coal mines. What did Shannon actually do to anyone - other than Gina's imaginary issue with her being jealous of her phony friendship with Heather? As discussed at length before, the ire of the lawsuit reveal directed at Shannon was ridiculous. Most people would want to know that a person they were friends with had sued them in the past! Jen is boring. Her and Ryne are not fun to watch and sometimes even uncomfortable. Noella is nuts but I like that she doesn't kiss up to the others. I think they tried to make this season the Heather Dubrow show but her and Gina and Emily constantly ganging up 3 on 1 against Shannon showed a very ugly side to her.

Alternative thought - I wonder if Kenedi just decided that she wasn't ready to leave her simple, 17 year old high school life behind for the life-changing stardom they practically guaranteed she was headed for. I could see that pressure being overwhelming to a teenager. I guess we will find out soon enough if she pops up somewhere else with a different record deal.

Shannon comes off as the most likeable and "normal" this season, She takes incoming bullshit from everyone and remains relatively calm trying to talk things out while the rest of them just want to go off on her. She seems to have a maturity while the others act like a clique of teenagers in high school. Heather/Gina/Emily are the mean girls snuggling in bed and talking trash about people. Jen adds nothing to the mix but gloms on to Heather's every move which puts Shannon constantly on defense against these idiots. You don't have to be jealous of someone to think that they have a big head and their ego needs to come back to reality. It's called an observation. Gina is definitely full of herself these days.Her storming off because Noella didn't recognize her friend's nickname casually dropped in a conversation was so embarassing. I thought she said Todd lol

Shannon has been the punching bag this entire season and it has not been fun to watch. She seems to be in a good place in her life and the Heather, Gina, Emily trio come off like bullies at this point. In Episode 1, Heather directed her wrath at Shannon because she dared to make the connection that this friend Nicole was the same woman who she knew sued Terry in the past. Any normal person would wonder about their friendship under those circumstances. Heather should have been angry with Nicole for hiding it or Gina for bringing it up at a party but instead went off on Shannon, who did nothing wrong IMO. Heather only sees things from her Heather-centric world and assumes everyone should fall in line. Her friendships with Emily and Gina do not seem genuine. Noella is a loon but I appreciate that she doesn't kiss Heather's ass or take any of her crap.

I was disappointed that Susie took him back. For me, the best outcome would have been for him to end up alone because honestly, these girls all deserve better than that lunkhead. Susie may think she "won" but Clayton is no prize and this relationship won't last. Even though Gabby and Rachel told him off last night, I thought he still got off easy for what he put them through. If he was a decent person, he would have let them both go at the rose ceremony because he was broken and he knew he loved Susie the most at that point *eyeroll*. Instead, he begged them both to stay and "fight", had them bond with his family further getting their hopes up only to dump them both at the same time to chase after Susie again. Still can't believe she went back to him, having the benefit of knowing what he did to and with the other girls as well as seeing that nasty side of his personality when he turned on her.

Tiffany was paranoid and believed that Zander had an idol so she convinced the other two women to vote Voce with her to be sure that she would not go home if an idol was played. It would be really odd if he said that again at another challenge. I would think that now that he has said his butterfly phrase, he will just wait for the other two phrases to be said.

Although unexpectedly normal for them, I think the baby's name is Rose. They refer to her as baby R and both use the 🌹 emoji in their posts about her. From Caitlynn: "Roses are red Violets are blue She’s our 🌹 And we’re so happy for her to meet you!"

Yes very cruel to ditch Rachael on her last date with no explanation and also cruel to not give Michelle her two minutes to get closure. Matt clearly has issues of his own to work through.

He's been gone two months and yet so much of this program is still devoted to talking about Trump. Lots of other things currently going on in the world but yet this group is stuck on him.

WW = Walter White of Breaking Bad, also played by Brian Cranston. I liked this series although you had to pretty much suspend disbelief to buy into the whole premise. There is no way that accident would not have been caught on some camera somewhere. He would have been on camera at the precinct the night of the accident. No cameras at the marina either? Cameras everywhere in 2021!

Hannah B has a new BF so hopefully it won't be her. https://people.com/tv/hannah-brown-adam-woolard-hold-hands/ Don't want Becca or Kelly either. Would love to see someone new have a chance!

If people were sending Anna messages telling her to watch out for Brittany before the show started filming, then wouldn't Anna have been curious that Brittany wasn't even there in the OG group. If she was smart, she might have figured out that more women would be coming. I understand why the women were upset when the newbies showed up because they all think that if they could only get more time with Matt then they would fall madly in love. Realistically though, if Matt wasn't feeling it with somebody at that point, adding new women into the mix isn't going to change anything.

I was originally thinking Tulip was Maddie for sure but I am going with MacKenzie now. Her word up clue was "princess" and MacKenzie voiced the lead in "Ice Princess Lily". She may be hard for these judges to guess since she's not as well known as some of the other celebs.